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Polymorph - Mindflayer

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Now that the newest patch has come out and updated the polymorph/shapeshift systems, can someone tell me what Polymorph - Mindflayer form does? It gets no spells and is mechanically weaker than Bladespider, Troll, and Gargoyle. I'd like to know if it can be used for anything other than RP, or if perhaps the Devs plan to allow spellcasting while in this form at some point?

I understand that these spells change STR, DEX, and CON while leaving out any extraplanar or direct abilities of the creatures, but is there a reason to choose Mindflayer after all this?

My idea is to allow spellcasting for this form, though I wouldn't know how difficult it would be to code. Perhaps replace it with something a bit more fitting to the spell? Maybe have them restricted to alignments just like planar binding spells?
(Note that this is up to interpretation)

Examples for forms:

- Oozes (True Neutral)
- Fairies (Exotica Neutral)
- Skeleton (Neutral Evil) < For necromancers, they're evil
- Vampire (Chaotic Evil) < For necromancers, they're evil
- Gnoll (Chaotic Neutral)
- (some good creature, can't think of any off the top of my head)
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Re: Polymorph - Mindflayer

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The spell will get a major overhaul when I fixed some polymorph issues.
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Nice
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Awesome, and quick response too. Thank you Nachti!
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I dont know how appropriate to take the PnP version into consideration but here it goes. About turning into undead forms; it's not part of the nwn2 spell description but its PnP counterpart is specific about the change is into another form of living creature. So I am not sure that is the intended use of the spell.

Also, spellcasting in the polymorphed creature is possible if the creature is capable of doing such. For example, turning into a Blade Spider would mean that you can't cast spells as you can not provide the necessary somatic and verbal components. But as an illithid -which is a race that can cast spells-, or other possible forms such as many fey creatures, giants, dragons etc. one would be able to cast spells as they retain any class abilities they originally have.
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And actually troll shouldnt get regeneration because its an extraordinary quality.
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Nachti wrote:And actually troll shouldnt get regeneration because its an extraordinary quality.
True. Regen should not be there for polymorph.

Shapechange, however... I feel like I need more special attacks/abilities :D
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BlueAce417 wrote: - (some good creature, can't think of any off the top of my head)
elf :roll: :roll: :roll:
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