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Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:24 pm
by cosmic ray
Is it possible to add a function to the appearance changing item that copies the appearance of and item and transfers it to another item? I remember playing on some old nwn1 servers that had this option.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:29 pm
by Marathados
Would be great and easy indeed!

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:50 pm
by Tsidkenu
Sigil has this. It is a fairly cumbersome system involving an NPC and two armour racks, from which any HIPS thief can come along and steal the stuff you're trying to transmogrify...

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:04 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Tsidkenu wrote:Sigil has this. It is a fairly cumbersome system involving an NPC and two armour racks, from which any HIPS thief can come along and steal the stuff you're trying to transmogrify...
We wouldn't be using that system.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:18 pm
by Marathados
Tsidkenu wrote:Sigil has this. It is a fairly cumbersome system involving an NPC and two armour racks, from which any HIPS thief can come along and steal the stuff you're trying to transmogrify...
Sounds evil!

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:24 am
by cosmic ray
Well, hopefully that system is not the only way to accompilsh the idea.

I wonder if the Sigil devs could try making the area surrounding the armor stand unwalkable to prevent theft.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:38 am
by metaquad4
You need to the put armor in the racks for it to work. If it is what I think it is:

Rack A) Place your item in that you want stats from.
Rack B) Place your item (of the same type) that you want the appearance of.
Talk the the NPC.
Rack B's Item now has Rack A's stats.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:44 am
by Infra
Skullport has a system that uses "replica" items (with no stats) that you can modify with our current appearance changer kit window.

They then use a "copy" item, like a wand, which the player uses on the modified "replica item" and then "paste" the appearance on the true item.

What is very handy about that, is that you can keep the "replica" item and quickly "copy-paste" the appearance with the wand on a newly acquired armor.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:54 am
by cosmic ray
That sounds very good! Can the replicas be made to have no 0.0 weight?

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:20 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
cosmic ray wrote:Well, hopefully that system is not the only way to accompilsh the idea.
We can modify object item appearances directly without using duplicate / copy objects.
Templates can also be retained / stored without needing to hold objects, with output/input support for the users to mimic into another account.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:34 pm
by aaron22
with this application, we could add a gold sink to the server by selling appearance items that you use the wand to apply to used gear. so the appearance changer could just be removed. its not more simple but does provide another gold sink that should be continuous with updates and upgrades coming in as the models get created/granted.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:19 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
With the frequency of new content coming in I think we should shelve costing the players from it's use, though I do want to limit where the player can change their gear appearances at in the module.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:51 pm
by aaron22
the frequency of updates kind of makes this make sense. you could even have appearance items drop from bosses so they could sell or could make them no-trade. a lot of opportunity here.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:40 pm
by Planehopper
Oh, man.. please don't charge to modify appearances, and dont make us find them. On an RP server in a world with control over so little, appearances are important. If a new way creates more diversity and options, great. If it limits, removes, bottlenecks, or makes a 'have vs have not' culture stronger.. not great.

If only allowing appearance changes in certain areas makes sense from an exploit-prevention vantage, great, but please ensure that its easily accessible (not in the nexus, not in one city) so as to make sense from an RP standpoint as well.

Re: Easy item appearance copies

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:47 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Planehopper wrote:Oh, man.. please don't charge to modify appearances, and dont make us find them. On an RP server in a world with control over so little, appearances are important. If a new way creates more diversity and options, great. If it limits, removes, bottlenecks, or makes a 'have vs have not' culture stronger.. not great.
There won't be a cost added.
Planehopper wrote:If only allowing appearance changes in certain areas makes sense from an exploit-prevention vantage, great, but please ensure that its easily accessible (not in the nexus, not in one city) so as to make sense from an RP standpoint as well.
The interior areas will be the major metro hubs for the appearance changer to work. This is a client performance issue context, as more than one person sifting through appearances crashes people or stalls them on AT.