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How much UMD?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:33 pm
by AlfarinIcebreaker
So I noticed that Melodic Chainmail (Mithral one) has race specific requirement. I was wondering how much UMD one has to have to be able to equip it? I a planning it for my Dwarf Battlerager, who doesn't have UMD as class skill and isn't very charismatic, so just to know if he will be able to wear it.
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:54 pm
by chad878262
If you're rcr'ing should be able to level up taking 1 punt at a time until you can use it...i think it requires 11, but not sure.
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:11 pm
by Sputnik
The UMD DC checks are as follows:
DC 5 to emulate a race
DC 10 to emulate an alignment
DC 13 to emulate a class
DC 10 to use wands
DC 12 to use rods
DC 11+2/spell level for scrolls. So lvl.1 spell scrolls will have a DC of 13, lvl.2 spells DC 15, and so on...
DC 25+ spell level to use scrolls
::edit:: Apart from scrolls, there is no d20 added to the UMD check, so you'll have to have a minimum of 5 in the skill, after modifiers, to emulate a race ::edit::
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:36 pm
by Tsidkenu
DC for scroll use is wrong there, Sputnik. It's 25+ spell level on BGTSCC (max DC 34 for 9th level spells).
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:36 am
by Sputnik
Ah, my mistake.
Going off of the IG description for the UMD skill.
Admittedly, I rarely go beyond 13 UMD, so you would know better than I.
Fixed.
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:47 am
by Valefort
Two part for scrolls, 1 top be able to read it (11+2/spell level ), 2 to successfully cast it (25+spell level).
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:00 pm
by mrm3ntalist
11 UMD after penalties/bonuses is the target for most builds. 5 ranks in spellcraft give +2UMD with the new skill synergies
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:50 pm
by izzul
mrm3ntalist wrote:11 UMD after penalties/bonuses is the target for most builds. 5 ranks in spellcraft give +2UMD with the new skill synergies
this means with 30 spellcraft you get +12 UMD? somehow it only add +3 UMD for 30 spellcraft.
correct me if im wrong(anyone else is experiencing this?)
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:51 pm
by mrm3ntalist
izzul wrote:mrm3ntalist wrote:11 UMD after penalties/bonuses is the target for most builds. 5 ranks in spellcraft give +2UMD with the new skill synergies
this means with 30 spellcraft you get +6 UMD? somehow it only add +3 UMD for 30 spellcraft.
correct me if im wrong(anyone else is experiencing this?)
You only get +2UMD with 5+ ranks in UMD. Whether you have 5 or 30 ranks, you still get +2 UMD
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:54 pm
by izzul
mrm3ntalist wrote:izzul wrote:mrm3ntalist wrote:11 UMD after penalties/bonuses is the target for most builds. 5 ranks in spellcraft give +2UMD with the new skill synergies
this means with 30 spellcraft you get +6 UMD? somehow it only add +3 UMD for 30 spellcraft.
correct me if im wrong(anyone else is experiencing this?)
You only get +2UMD with 5+ ranks in UMD. Whether you have 5 or 30 ranks, you still get +2 UMD
ah, thank you so much for clearing this.
Re: How much UMD?
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:52 pm
by V'rass
How much?... as much as you can get.
