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Lure Shadow Demons

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I just want to make a pair of suggestions about Lure Shadow Demons that annoys me.

The first one is that the caster must be targeted before casting it, which can be forgotten very easily. This is more annoying when casting spells on a row. For example a tipical of mine is Walk Unseen or Retributive Invisibility - Lure Shadow Demons - Flee the Scene.

Second one is that it takes 3 rounds to be cast. This is waaaay long for some meatshields that don't last long in epics. Anyway, they last 2 minutes as a max, which forces to recast and recast the invocation. Would it be possible to reduce this? Even to 2 rounds.

Further suggestions about this invocations are welcome too.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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The 3 round timer on all same types of summons does feel way too long for their very short duration.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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In addition, the spell practically fails in any confined space, because spawn points are coliding with walls or other invalid locations, and you lose the summon even if you got lucky on a roll.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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Use quicken.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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Aspect of Sorrow wrote:Use quicken.
It is a warlock invocation.
Myrualae - Chantress of Doron Amar
Snow - Sorcery and carrots!
Gomez de Aguirre - The Fabulous Knight of the Mystic Fire
Uelaereene Sai'zzel - Once I saw the stars...
Lilly Sai'zzel - Stormy snowflake
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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You also cannot quicken 8th level spells on BGTSCC due to bugsidian's nerf of the Auto-quicken line of feats.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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So, any consideration taken into account from the QC team?

If the duration of casting it is not changed, I think the point about having to target the caster should be erased.
Myrualae - Chantress of Doron Amar
Snow - Sorcery and carrots!
Gomez de Aguirre - The Fabulous Knight of the Mystic Fire
Uelaereene Sai'zzel - Once I saw the stars...
Lilly Sai'zzel - Stormy snowflake
And more...
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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It's also a wiz/sorc spell that can be scribed, the targetting can't be changed without messing that up so no to that part.
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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Valefort wrote:It's also a wiz/sorc spell that can be scribed, the targetting can't be changed without messing that up so no to that part.
Ah, didn't know that Vale. Then, forget that part of the suggestion.

What about reducing the casting time?
Myrualae - Chantress of Doron Amar
Snow - Sorcery and carrots!
Gomez de Aguirre - The Fabulous Knight of the Mystic Fire
Uelaereene Sai'zzel - Once I saw the stars...
Lilly Sai'zzel - Stormy snowflake
And more...
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That's for QC to say :)
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And... what does QC say? :shock:
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Re: Lure Shadow Demons

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Glowfire wrote:And... what does QC say? :shock:
"Nerf-nerf-nerf-nerf-nerfittonerfiestnerf!
Nerfiest-nerf-nerf-nerf-nerfittonerfiestnerf!
Nerfiest-nerf-nerf-nerf-nerfittonerfiestnerf!
What the QC say?"

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