Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

ok so im looking for a pvp based solid hips mage. pretty self explanatory. shouldnt need high spot or listen but if it can fit in, go for it.

Nothing overly complex. W26/SD4, pick a DC based spell school (my favorite is illusion, but Necromancy is more powerful). In Epics grab Vampiric Feast and all Great INTs, unless you are going to end up on an odd INT in which case you take Epic Spell Focus.

See how helpful I am? Even when faced with the threat of PvP, I still provide advice.

Yeah... Wizard 26/Shadowdancer 4... It is the Wizard Bonus feats that make it a good choice to creep your Spell DCs as high as you can and not just in one school. Just start with 16 INT as an orc, get practised spell caster... etc. You are probably going to be part of the Orc faction, so you will have some melee guy to tank for you etc... Take Able Learner at level 3. Other feat Extend Spell... Other than that? Not really needed.

As for base equipment, Item of 'Stalker' bought from the Seven Suns usually have +skills to both stealth and detection. But you can focus on stealh skills with your items. GH and C&C give like what, +14 to spot? Not to mention that Grey-Orc scent kind of reveals all hostiles on the map anyhow.

Edit: as a HiPS mage, be hasted and go try out that Shadow Simulacrum....

I know you want to be an Orc but you should not pick a race that gives -2 INT and -2 CHA. Moreover, you should pick a race that gives +2 INT or + 2 CHA depending on whether your choose wizard or sorcerer.

You should go some type of DC Cleric Gray Orc if you're dead set on it.

Your spell DCs will be -2 lower than a +2 INT/CHA race, however, those races usually tend to multiclass more and hence have less epic feats. Therefore, you can reach the avarage baselane with a Grey Orc, or a Half-Orc.

Rinzler wrote:I know you want to be an Orc but you should not pick a race that gives -2 INT and -2 CHA. Moreover, you should pick a race that gives +2 INT or + 2 CHA depending on whether your choose wizard or sorcerer.

You should go some type of DC Cleric Gray Orc if you're dead set on it.

Some players thankfully pick a character concept first, and then build to fit that.

dedude wrote:

Rinzler wrote:I know you want to be an Orc but you should not pick a race that gives -2 INT and -2 CHA. Moreover, you should pick a race that gives +2 INT or + 2 CHA depending on whether your choose wizard or sorcerer.

You should go some type of DC Cleric Gray Orc if you're dead set on it.

Some players thankfully pick a character concept first, and then build to fit that.

I recognize that, but since this is a character building forum I think it's appropriate to point out potential flaws in builds as well. I'm not here to pursuade someone to play what they don't want to play, only providing well rounded build feedback.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?276258 <= There is one build, it gets DC 37 Wail of Banshee, and DC 34 Meteor Swarm. If you do want to make use of Quickened Bigby 5, you could switch Quicken Spell feat for Greater Spell Focus in another school, hence you could get DC 36 Meteor Swarm for example.

aaron22 wrote:ok so im looking for a pvp based solid hips mage. pretty self explanatory. shouldnt need high spot or listen but if it can fit in, go for it.

So i'm scared here because looking at your previous build with khar (as seen on the forums) it was incredibly similar to what I was doing with an alt. That build being fighter/wod/wm/fb....did the build suck?

Aaron plays many different orcs. Your fighter build is fine.

Thanks for the bout of confidence there chad .

Sorry Aarren I wish I could help you as much as I've seen you help others though I am complete trash with builds. I guess my one suggestion (which would be torn to shreds) is below:

Perhaps do Wizard/blood mage/shadowdancer

The reason I suggest blood mage as it could be seen as fitting rp for an orc and it should (unless I am completely mistaken) up your effective CL by two levels? which would minimize the damage that you would take going for hips. A huge issue you will run into will be getting the 19 dex required for sd and as a caster and I wouldn't recommend taking 8 levels of assassin to get it.

I believe archmage also ups your CL as well correct? That may be the better alternative to blood mage.

All of this I am certain you are aware of, but I wanted to try and contribute none-the-less.