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Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:28 am
by Babuguuscooties
I've seen you guys build some phenomenally maximized builds, but now it's time for the least optimized build of all time. This is gonna be tough for you, so I understand if you're not up to the challenge.
What would be the worst race/class combo you could think of! Let's see little to no synergy, the opposite of min/maxing, and no class skills or useful feats

Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:43 am
by Sun Wukong
Grey Dwarf Sorcerer. It starts with -4 to charisma, and even if you go for single class Sorcerer with all epic feats spent on Great Charisma, you are still kind of screwed when it comes to spell DCs.
Other such example could be a DC based Earth Genasi Spirit Shaman/Favored Soul.
Edit: but the thing is... If you are not wasting feats, etc, you can salvage everything to some extent.
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:53 am
by Babuguuscooties
Sun Wukong wrote:Edit: but the thing is... If you are not wasting feats, etc, you can salvage everything to some extent.
That's actually a pretty cool fact, to be honest.
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:40 am
by chad878262
Babuguuscooties wrote:I've seen you guys build some phenomenally maximized builds, but now it's time for the least optimized build of all time. This is gonna be tough for you, so I understand if you're not up to the challenge.
What would be the worst race/class combo you could think of! Let's see little to no synergy, the opposite of min/maxing, and no class skills or useful feats

Why? Seems an exercise in silliness with no realistic application. As Sun Wukong stated any Race/Class combination can be made at a minimum serviceable / viable for PvE with reasonable feat, stat and skill selections. When someone provides a build based on a request they tend to optimize it within the parameters given and assume the requester will make changes to fit their RP (perhaps losing a bit of main stat in order not to have a 6 or 8 in the 'dump' stat for example.) What would be the point of taking a request and purposefully putting the primary stat at 11 and filling all of the feats with random mechanically worthless feats other than to waste time?
Oh I see...this is just a request to waste my time so you can level up your PC to take out my new adventuring group! Well played sir...well played.

Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:20 am
by KOPOJIbPAKOB
My first toon on the server was half-drow monk with tonns of wisdom, some agility and 8 strength. Combined with bugged Long Death kit, he was truly pathetic.
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:28 am
by Deathgrowl
Worst class/race combo I can think about? Svirfnebli sorcerer10/swashbuckler5/frenzied berserker5/blood magus10.
I mean, I can come up with equally horrendous ideas, but... what's the point?

Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:53 pm
by aaron22
ummm. Tiefling: Barb9/Sorc7/Cl6/Druid8. that seems pretty terrible
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:49 pm
by Sun Wukong
aaron22 wrote:ummm. Tiefling: Barb9/Sorc7/Cl6/Druid8. that seems pretty terrible
It is, with the dispel fix implemented on this server. However, without the dispel fix and with Strength Domain you still get +10 to Strength thanks to Divine Power and Rage. You can cast Haste and Improved Mage Armor, and Druid gives you that +1d8 Fire damage per hit.
There are NWN2 servers where that build of yours can actually carry its weight around. Not to mention craft Wands and Brew Potions.

Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm
by Babuguuscooties
chad878262 wrote:Oh I see...this is just a request to waste my time so you can level up your PC to take out my new adventuring group! Well played sir...well played.

Ya caught me.

Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:20 pm
by Flasmix
30 wizard half orc with 6 int and minimum con. For feats take only skill focus ones for skills you are not leveling. Only pump up Charisma.
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:31 pm
by aaron22
Sun Wukong wrote:aaron22 wrote:ummm. Tiefling: Barb9/Sorc7/Cl6/Druid8. that seems pretty terrible
It is, with the dispel fix implemented on this server. However, without the dispel fix and with Strength Domain you still get +10 to Strength thanks to Divine Power and Rage. You can cast Haste and Improved Mage Armor, and Druid gives you that +1d8 Fire damage per hit.
There are NWN2 servers where that build of yours can actually carry its weight around. Not to mention craft Wands and Brew Potions.

this build would be near impossible to play. i tried to make it so it could carry gear because you would need different gear to fight and buff with. pretty much made it as well as i could. might be able to do some different feats to get another direction. i really dont have much to say about this build.
http://nwn2db.com/build/?276294
i had him worship myrkul because it would spend a lot of time talking to him.
play challenge: take this build and get it to 30 solo?
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:32 pm
by aaron22
Flasmix wrote:30 wizard half orc with 6 int and minimum con. For feats take only skill focus ones for skills you are not leveling. Only pump up Charisma.
already running that build.... oh wait.. nope mine is full orc.. nvmd
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:59 pm
by Valefort
Nest update you'll be able to roll commoners and set all their stats to 7, also able to pick handicap feats.
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:09 pm
by aaron22
can i make an orc commoner?
Re: Alright you build monkeys! Challenge time!
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:12 pm
by Valefort
Any race.