Could you allow Warlocks to get Craft Wand feat, in other words make the feat require either caster level of 5 or 'Eldritch Blast 3d6.' Warlocks do not have spells of their own, but they do have UMD as a class skill, and hence they could craft all the wands they need with just a bunch of scrolls.
I think that currently, you need to use a build such as Cleric 5/Warlock 25, or Cleric 3/Warlock 27 and spend a feat on Practised Spell Caster (Cleric) to get your cleric caster level high enough to qualify for the Craft Wand feat.
Warlocks - Craft Wand
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Warlocks - Craft Wand
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
You are not supposed to be able to craft anything using UMD and scrolls, so no, I don't see that happening.
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
What? Grobnar Gnomehands in the original game was the default crafting character, with his UMD skill and everything else.
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
dedude's statement relates to the written rules of PnP D&D where in order to craft items, wands, etc. you have to actually have the spells in question, not be able to cast them via scroll. Otherwise yes, bards and rogues would make far better crafters than Wizards and Clerics at low levels. Of course, the fact that in PnP you can set the Caster Level of the wand would eventually make wizards/clerics/druids the better crafters.
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
Warlocks are specifically given the ability to create items with UMD though. http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Imbue_item
In nwn2 it doesn't include wands. But the PnP version doesn't seem to say what sort of items are valid.
In nwn2 it doesn't include wands. But the PnP version doesn't seem to say what sort of items are valid.
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
A spell that you know. You can use UMD skill to decipher a written spell, just as you could use spellcraft, or read magic, and I would argue that now you know what spell is on the scroll and therefore could use it for the purposes of crafting wands.Craft Wand
You can create a wand of any 4th-level or lower spell that you know. Crafting a wand takes one day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. The base price of a wand is its caster level × the spell level × 750 gp. To craft a wand, you must spend 1/25 of this base price in XP and use up raw materials costing one-half of this base price. A newly created wand has 50 charges.
For example imagine a cold based arcane caster inside a walled town surrounded by an small horde of weakish trolls. The trolls are trying to scale the walls, and each troll that is 'slain' by the defenders can relatively safely regenerate due to their sheer numbers alone. I guess our arcanist could hope that the town has enough oil of some kind to throw off the walls, and then light it up with a lit torch. But he could just as well stumble on an arcane scroll of Fireball and with the Craft Wand feat turn the single use scroll into a wand with 50 uses. Perhaps he could kill several with each use of the wand. Now, he would be stuck with the scroll's caster level though, and the exact costs that it brings.
Now, if you want to be legalistic, I can see why someone could argue that you can only craft wands of the spells that you have added to your spellbook or might have in case of divine casters. I can see why another could possibly argue that the spells need to be currently memorized. And just as well I could argue that scrolls could be used to craft wands. The source material is not exactly clear cut on this, so I suppose the interpretation goes with a DM decision.
And yeah, a correction to the first post, a Warlock of the 12th level, should be able to get craft wand feat.
But the funny thing again is that the Warlock's Imbue Item ability is not that clear cut either. The source material description lists that it allows you to create magic items, but doesn't clearly state the nature of these magic items. We have feats for Craft Wand, Craft Wondrous Items, Craft Magic Arms and Armours, Craft Rod, and Craft Staff, and here someone could insist that a Warlock can only create Magic Arms and Armours even though all these of feats create magic items.
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Re: Warlocks - Craft Wand
NB: A warlock with this feat still requires the requisite crafting feats to make items. The Imbue Item feat simply lets them bypass the requisite spellcasting and use a UMD check instead.Imbue Item (Su): A warlock of 12th level or higher can use his supernatural power to create magic items, even if he does not know the spells required to make an item (although he must know the appropriate item creation feat). He can substitute a Use Magic Device check (DC 15 + spell level for arcane spells or 25 + spell level for divine spells) in place of a required spell he doesn't know or can't cast.
If the check succeeds, the warlock can create the item as if he had cast the required spell. If it fails, he cannot complete the item. He does not expend the XP or gp costs for making the item; his progress is simply arrested. He cannot retry this Use Magic Device check for that spell until he gains a new level.
If you want your warlock to craft wands/brew potions, take the Craft Wand/Brew Potion feat and UMD scrolls as your 'spells' until someone like Valefort reforms Wand Crafting/Potion brewing for warlocks to simply become a dropdown menu of every possible spell on this server & roll a UMD check to see if you succeeded or not. You must have the requisite crafting feat/s to utilise Imbue Item. That should not change.
[Edit] Just realised the real question in the OP. Yes, warlocks should be able to qualify for any Crafting Feat (incl. Craft Wand) after they have Imbue Item perhaps? It is not fair that NWN2 engine limitations should prevent them from so doing, esp. in regards to Dedude's protest about UMDing scrolls to make wands (engine limitation PnP warlocks are not subject to).