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Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:54 am
by Steve
I've noticed recently that Sense Motive is not listed for Classes on the Wiki. And, a little nagging thought is reminding me that I once read (?) that Sense Motive was opened up to all Classes?
If that is the case, or either way, I can update the Class Page to reflect this situation, and/or make a note on the Forums to Custom Changes that Sense Motive is open to all.
Or maybe this is already posted somewhere but I'm ignorant of its location?!? Cheers.
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:43 am
by Valefort
I'm confused, it's listed.
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:07 am
by Steve
Valefort wrote:I'm confused, it's listed.
Where, per Class itself?
Maybe then some Classes in particular need updating? Like Monk, for example? And perhaps some Classes lack it altogether, like Spirit Shaman?
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:51 am
by Valefort
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:11 am
by Steve
Okay, just lacking cross-references then. I'm on it!
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:03 pm
by Tsidkenu
Clerics don't have it but paladins do, a point I find very odd (because normally one associates priests with the intuitive ability to perceive problems before they even happen).
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:09 pm
by Steve
I can only say I agree with you Tsid—Classes that have Wisdom as their foundation seem natural for a Skill such as Sense Motive. Thus, I would expect Cleric and Spirit Shaman to have it as a Class Skill. But who am I to argue with D&D game designers, right?
Right?!? 
Re: Sense Motive available for all Classes and PrCs?
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:22 pm
by cosmic ray
Vanilla D&D makes no sense.