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Why doesn't Divine Champion have option for DM DS

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:46 am
by blacksoft
Assuming build already has undead turning, why doesn't the Divine Champion have option of (extra smiting,) Divine Might, Divine Shield as part of bonus feats pool.

It already has extra turning as an option.

The class is called Divine Champion.

It has smite ability which is kin to Paladin and Blackguard who already have smites and DC seems natural progression from either of those classes. Especially since Paladin has lay on hands as does Divine Champion.

Divine Champion wants charisma for Divine Wrath and Smite infidel. Divine Shield and DM work off of charisma.

Divine Champion has lack of Divine feats to choose from. (Which is odd)

Re: Why doesn't Divine Champion have option for DM DS

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:46 am
by Tsidkenu
Because the class neither grants nor progresses Turn/Rebuke Undead. Only classes that grant/advance that ability should be able to take feats that utilise it imo.

Re: Why doesn't Divine Champion have option for DM DS

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:36 am
by blacksoft
Tsidkenu wrote:Because the class neither grants nor progresses Turn/Rebuke Undead. Only classes that grant/advance that ability should be able to take feats that utilise it imo.
Why does it have access to fighter specific feats?

Re: Why doesn't Divine Champion have option for DM DS

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:15 am
by blacksoft
chambordini wrote:
In any case, giving turn undead to divine champion would be a enormous buff, and letting them pick divine shield or divine might on a bonus feat or regular level would still require having a class that gets turn undead, eg pal blackguard cleric.

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I was thinking if the build already had paladin, cleric, or Blackguard. Not that DC should have undead turning feat. Because you are right that would be an enormous unnecessary buff. I just see a paladin or cleric who chooses Divine Champion does not have much to choose from in the heroic levels for the bonus feats that Divine Champion provides. It appears DC feats are meant for fighters...

Re: Why doesn't Divine Champion have option for DM DS

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:13 pm
by Blackman D
yea thats bc DC is nothing but a divine fighter...