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Divinate Auto Extend + Extend Spell metamagic...stack or no?
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:46 pm
by Steve
Pretty much the Subject. Answer me truly lovelies, and I'll update the Wiki!
Re: Divinate Auto Extend + Extend Spell metamagic...stack or
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:58 pm
by Hendrak
I remember that extend spell and auto-extend spell was posted on the forums to stack.
Question is whats the result? Duration x 3 or Duration x 4?
Re: Divinate Auto Extend + Extend Spell metamagic...stack or
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:03 am
by Steve
Here's a follow-up question, of sorts:
Divinate receives the Auto Extend Level 3 spells at Level 10 Divinate. But what level of Paladin spell progression does Level 3 spells activate, considering Paladin has full spell progression now?
According to the NWN2 wiki, Paladin gets Level 3 spells at Class Level 12. The Divinate Class Kit can be taken at Character Level 2, so at Class Level 11 (Paladin 1 + Divinate 10), when one would receive the Auto Extend Level 3 spells Feat, the total Spellcasting Levels are 11...and if the Wiki is correct, one doesn't get Level 3 spells until Level 12?!!? What?!?
However...if your Paladin has 16+ WISDOM, them by the Ability Modifier "rules," you get a bonus Level 3 spell...but, Paladin/Ranger spell progression doesn't seem to function like the Bard does, which can grant you spells before normal, if your modifier ability is high enough.
So...what gives? Does Divinate grant Auto Extend Level 3 before one can actually get those spells, in a Paladin build? Or, is the Wiki wrong now that Paladin has full progression?
Re: Divinate Auto Extend + Extend Spell metamagic...stack or
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:06 am
by Tsidkenu
Paladin 11 unlocks 0 3rd level spell slot, meaning you need a wisdom modifier of 16 (+3) to get a bonus slot for a spell there, or alternatively some items with bonus 3rd level paladin slots and 13 wisdom (11 with +2 item will suffice). At 12th level a paladin will get their first actual spell slot for level 3, rather than just unlocking that spell tier as granted at level 11.
'Full progression' refers to caster level, not spell level progression. Vanilla NWN2 a 10th level paladin would only have 5 CL. On BGTSCC they have 'full' (ie, 1:1) progression so that a 30th level paladin will have CL 30 (rather than 15 of the OC).
Re: Divinate Auto Extend + Extend Spell metamagic...stack or
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:52 am
by Steve
Right. Kinda like I thought, but not as I was interpreting! Thanks for the infoz.