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Pure warlock build

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Looking to build a pure blaster Warlock with no multi classing or HFW (for RP reasons). No heritage background either.

Str12
Dex 12 [with +2 dex item to max chainmail bonus]
Con 16 [hp is good – max this for concentration]
Int 14 [skills are good]
Wis 10 [i don’t like dumpstats]
Cha 14 [rp reasons]

Feats include war caster and medium armour prof (for medium armour from level 1), combat expertise, improved combat expertise, blindfight, toughness, steadfast determination, improved critical (RTA), eldritch master at 21.

Least: See the Unseen, Dark One’s Own Luck, Otherworldly Whispers (RP reasons)
Lesser: Eldritch Chain, Walk Unseen, Ignore the Pyre
Greater: Repelling Blast, Vitriolic Blast, ???
Dark: Dark Foresight, Dark Premonition, Otherworldly Leap (to cool to pass up)

  • *Any critical feats I’m missing? Need shield proficiency?
    *Is Dex14 with Med BAB sufficient?
    *Any key invocations I’m missing? Flee the Scene with Dark Transient seems to get recommended a lot. Is the Haste effect (+1AB/+1AC/50% move) really that worthwhile?
    *Good Greater invocations? Considered Bewitching or Hindering for low Will enemies, but figured it’s better to just blow them up with Vitriolic (and Repelling for a panic button). Caustix Web/Chilling Tentacles/Tenacious Plague/Wall of Perilious Flame are all decent AoE candidates.
    *Is CE/ICE better than Combat Casting with Defensive casting?
    *Retributive Invisibility better than Foresight or Premonition?
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Re: Pure warlock build

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run def casting and combat casting only grants a +4 on your roll which is con check of 23 max for level 9 spell to combat an AoO. have ICE with def casting always and pump some points into concentration. but 23 is all you need to max that stat.

edit: and i always get shield prof if i dont get it from a dip.
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You want ICE. You will always hit except on a 1, so more AC is what you want/need. You really don't need blindfight (overrated IMHO), I would change that to Dark Transient giving you a speed boost and another point of AC. Yes, you want Flee the Scene instead of ignore the pyre. Other ways to get energy immunity with UMD items/wands. Might even consider taking Craft Wand. Save you some money and might make you some money.

You can get toughness from a Ring of Might opening up another feat like shield proficiency. There are -5% ASF shields and one called Frostmaden's Bane is +3. You should be able to get to 50 AC that way.

Skills are important with Concentration, Spellcraft, UMD, and Heal worth considering. (Why locks have heal and monks don't is beyond me.)

*Any critical feats I’m missing? Need shield proficiency? (Covered)

*Is Dex14 with Med BAB sufficient? Yes

*Any key invocations I’m missing? Flee the Scene with Dark Transient seems to get recommended a lot. Is the Haste effect (+1AB/+1AC/50% move) really that worthwhile? Yes

*Good Greater invocations? Considered Bewitching or Hindering for low Will enemies, but figured it’s better to just blow them up with Vitriolic (and Repelling for a panic button). Caustix Web/Chilling Tentacles/Tenacious Plague/Wall of Perilious Flame are all decent AoE candidates.
All the "new" lock feats are pretty much worthless. I would consider getting Hellrime Blast as it does double damage on fire giants who are a major epic enemy.

*Is CE/ICE better than Combat Casting with Defensive casting? Definitely

*Retributive Invisibility better than Foresight or Premonition? Toss up here. However, if you do take RI, forgo the Walk Unseen and replace it with something else.

You have a good start here, I know you'll enjoy whatever you come up with. Good luck!
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Re: Pure warlock build

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You really don't need blindfight (overrated IMHO)
I agree with most written above except this. 50% miss chance from concealment when you only have 1 attack per round can ruin your day. With more attacks per round it at least averages out.

For a full warlock I would probably drop dark premonition since you have almost half the DR already for free in cold iron.
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TeoDeathDealer wrote:You want ICE. You will always hit except on a 1, so more AC is what you want/need. You really don't need blindfight (overrated IMHO), I would change that to Dark Transient giving you a speed boost and another point of AC. Yes, you want Flee the Scene instead of ignore the pyre. Other ways to get energy immunity with UMD items/wands. Might even consider taking Craft Wand. Save you some money and might make you some money.

You can get toughness from a Ring of Might opening up another feat like shield proficiency. There are -5% ASF shields and one called Frostmaden's Bane is +3. You should be able to get to 50 AC that way.

Skills are important with Concentration, Spellcraft, UMD, and Heal worth considering. (Why locks have heal and monks don't is beyond me.)

*Any critical feats I’m missing? Need shield proficiency? (Covered)

*Is Dex14 with Med BAB sufficient? Yes

*Any key invocations I’m missing? Flee the Scene with Dark Transient seems to get recommended a lot. Is the Haste effect (+1AB/+1AC/50% move) really that worthwhile? Yes

*Good Greater invocations? Considered Bewitching or Hindering for low Will enemies, but figured it’s better to just blow them up with Vitriolic (and Repelling for a panic button). Caustix Web/Chilling Tentacles/Tenacious Plague/Wall of Perilious Flame are all decent AoE candidates.
All the "new" lock feats are pretty much worthless. I would consider getting Hellrime Blast as it does double damage on fire giants who are a major epic enemy.

*Is CE/ICE better than Combat Casting with Defensive casting? Definitely

*Retributive Invisibility better than Foresight or Premonition? Toss up here. However, if you do take RI, forgo the Walk Unseen and replace it with something else.

You have a good start here, I know you'll enjoy whatever you come up with. Good luck!
Oh craft wand works for warlocks? Yeah done.
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you could get blind fight in a least if you wanted. toss up on see invis.
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Re: Pure warlock build

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Nemni wrote:
You really don't need blindfight (overrated IMHO)
I agree with most written above except this. 50% miss chance from concealment when you only have 1 attack per round can ruin your day. With more attacks per round it at least averages out.
I would pick up Blindfight just to have that extra roll against concealment. I suppose you could say that not that many things on the server have concealment, and how you can level up on things that do not have it. Yet some things do, and that 50% concealment with just one attack per round is just literal cancer. Not to mention that lower amounts of concealment can also ruin your day just as well.


As for medium armor, you might be able to get your hands on an armor called 'Spellchain', an iron chainmail, with -20% arcane spell failure. Battle Caster feat allows you to ignore the 30% arcane spell failure from the armor itself, and therefore the -20% arcane spell failure chance can be used to negate the arcane spell failure from a heavy shield. Thus you can purchase a +4 heavy shield from Blushing Mermaid's basement along with some +4 bracers. It can be a cheaper alternative to that mithral armor and the light shield.

(I use this Spellchain and Heavy/Light Shield on my current bard.)

So yeah, just pump up your AC as high as possible.
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Nemni wrote:
You really don't need blindfight (overrated IMHO)
I agree with most written above except this. 50% miss chance from concealment when you only have 1 attack per round can ruin your day. With more attacks per round it at least averages out.

For a full warlock I would probably drop dark premonition since you have almost half the DR already for free in cold iron.
I don't have blindfight on any of my many warlocks and have never had an issue.
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Does Ignore the Pyre allow to be immune to all 5 energy types
or does it cancel its own effect if casted again ?
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Theodore01 wrote:Does Ignore the Pyre allow to be immune to all 5 energy types
or does it cancel its own effect if casted again ?
Cancels it, so just 1 type at a time.
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Nemni wrote:
Theodore01 wrote:Does Ignore the Pyre allow to be immune to all 5 energy types
or does it cancel its own effect if casted again ?
Cancels it, so just 1 type at a time.
Thxs, glad to hear that. :clap:
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