Water Genasi Monk with Fiery Fists feat

[BlueAce417]

As the title suggests, is it at all feasible to pick up Fiery Fists as a Water Genasi Monk?

I plan to take Ki Blasts in later levels but it occurred to me that water and fire are technically at ends with each other. Is there a reason a Water Genasi would overlook their distrust for flame or should I scrap the idea of a water monk and make him a Fire Genasi Monk?

[Sun Wukong]

Mechanically speaking, I do not think there is anything stopping you from getting it.

Although it does raise the question if Fiery Fists should be copy and pasted and slightly adjusted to create 'Lightning Fist' - 'Icy Fist' - and - 'Caustic Fist' - perhaps same treatment could be done for Blazing Aura. You know there could be Thundering Aura, Freezing Aura, and Corrosive Aura.

You would have to choose your elemental preference... so you couldn't have them all, or at least active at the same time.



Who would have thought that horrible movie could be handy one of these days.

[BlueAce417]

Mechanically speaking, I do not think there is anything stopping you from getting it.

Although it does raise the question if Fiery Fists should be copy and pasted and slightly adjusted to create 'Lightning Fist' - 'Icy Fist' - and - 'Caustic Fist' - perhaps same treatment could be done for Blazing Aura. You know there could be Thundering Aura, Freezing Aura, and Corrosive Aura.

You would have to choose your elemental preference... so you couldn't have them all, or at least active at the same time.



Who would have thought that horrible movie could be handy one of these days.

That would actually be perfect, I really didn't want to have to scrap him. I know there's nothing stopping me mechanically but I can't bring myself to use the ability cause it doesn't feel right with him.

[Arn]

I haven't read anything that says water genasi are particularly averse to fire. But even if they are averse to fire, you could have it be part of your monk RP that he overcame that aversion and turned it into a strength. If you ask me, a water genasi monk using fire could be a compelling contradiction, if you want to RP it as such.

[Theodore01]

Ki-Blasts was never added. (Only Ki-step and Dodge)

[BlueAce417]

Ki-Blasts was never added. (Only Ki-step and Dodge)

What?! D: the Wiki said it was on the server!
http://bgtscc.wikia.com/wiki/Ki_Blast

I haven't read anything that says water genasi are particularly averse to fire. But even if they are averse to fire, you could have it be part of your monk RP that he overcame that aversion and turned it into a strength. If you ask me, a water genasi monk using fire could be a compelling contradiction, if you want to RP it as such.

I believe I read somewhere that other Genasi dislike eachother for various reasons.

Earth dislikes Water because they think water is overtaking their land.
Air dislikes Fire because fire absorbs air to continue burning.
Fire dislikes Water because water is used to quench their flames.

Though I don't recall why Water dislikes Fire, I'm sure its the same reason Fire dislikes Water cause water evaporates?

While playing mask of the betrayer there's a lot of Genasi you can talk to and many of them didn't like eachother, apparently mostly based on their opposing element.

But I suppose I could RP that, it's just that I'm not sure what to say about it. I suppose he trained himself by slowly and progressively introducing himself to fires? (I stated that he prefers to meditate in water so maybe he learned to accept flame to the point of using fire?)

[Endelyon]

Ki blasts are definitely there the last I checked, though a little underwhelming in terms of damage and usefulness.

[Theodore01]

Is any one actually using them ?


When did these sneak in ?
And are https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... Ki_Defense and https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... d_Ki_Blast also in ?


@blueace: That's the old wiki.

[Endelyon]

I'm not sure about Fiery Ki Defense. I know the blasts went in years ago when Ki Step did, like before I was even admin.

[BlueAce417]

Ki blasts are definitely there the last I checked, though a little underwhelming in terms of damage and usefulness.

Focused Ki Blast and Ki Barrage was the real reason I wanted it

Focused Ki Blast: Xd6 damage + WIS Modifier; X= half monk levels.
Ki Barrage: 4 damage per missile; max of 10 missiles on single target; as many missiles as per monk levels.

The normal Ki Blast is really weak but I figured that it'd be cool to visually produce Ki instead of only RP-ing it.

[Theodore01]

I'm not sure about Fiery Ki Defense. I know the blasts went in years ago when Ki Step did, like before I was even admin.

Pretty sure you are mistaken here or someone took them out again.

old topic about them
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=55546&hilit=ki+blast

[BlueAce417]

Well I already took Fiery Fists o-o

Why were the Ki Blasts supposedly taken out? Assuming they are indeed taken out.

As they said, it's under-powered but that shouldn't stop people from using it for aesthetic. I mean Shadow Conjuration: Magic Missile looks cool but is SO VERY UNDERPOWERED but I've seen some people use it just cause it looks nice.

[Endelyon]

I don't think it's intentional, I know for a fact I made a character with them and tested them in the past. They're either gone missing from the Monk feat table or... something wonky has happened. We'll look into it.

[Theodore01]

From what i remember back then, it was that someone (staff?) didn't wanted energyball slingin monks here.

[BlueAce417]

From what i remember back then, it was that someone (staff?) didn't wanted energyball slingin monks here.

I don't see why, as you all have said the abilities are underpowered. I'm not expecting for it to be my main damage source, just a cool way to manifest Ki and hit some enemies from a distance.

I'm not entirely versed in what Ki/Chi is and I'll admit I only know it from DBZ and various stereotypical monk discussions. I pretty much only know that it's supposed to be energy that comes from your spirit and is limited by your physical fitness.