Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Questions About Character Builds, Build Critiques, and Build Sharing

Moderators: Moderator, DM

Post Reply
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

Make a build for this guy...

Image

A man with a vow of poverty, who goes around punching evil in the face... Wearing nothing but regular clothes.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
User avatar
Reckeo
Posts: 214
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:02 pm

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Reckeo »

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the character, but it seems you really don't need to take paladin as part of the build for role play purposes.

Sacred Fist itself is already sworn to a particular oath of not using weapons and other similar ideas.

A more effective concept, if I may, would seem to be a regular Cleric/Sacred Fist/Monk build. I'm currently building/working on a 20 monk/7 sacred fist/3 cleric (travel and good domain). Good permits aura of courage (very much like paladin), you'll end up with close to lvl 30 monk fighting since sacred fist gains unarmed fighting, ac bonuses, and movement speed per level as monk, but also spell casting progression with Cleric. This in essence gives you a 27 monk/9 cleric at level 30, with aura of courage and all the other additional awesome monk abilities up to level 20. You may lack in a few other areas, and you miss out on the full sacred fist fire divine fist bonus, but it was worth the trade off when I made the build with these idea's in mind. I can share the build with you if you like, I typically keep builds to myself but this is one I don't mind sharing and it seems to coincide with your character concept.

It essentially grants full monk fighting AB and unarmed damage, but with a few bonuses and trade-offs that make sense for a more holy-oriented monk type.
Incarnate
Posts: 480
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:36 am

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Incarnate »

I bring you:
The Sacred Monkaladin Fist - Emphasis on Paladin.
The Sacred Paladink Fist - Emphasis on Monk.

Honestly, I think you'd gain a whole lot more by going with a Cleric instead of the paladin.
chad878262
QC Coordinator
Posts: 9333
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:55 pm

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by chad878262 »

What about Cl3/M11/SF10/Hospitaler6? Not familiar with the character pictured, but hospitaler has the vow of poverty, +3 CL, high BAB and a bonus feat which can come in epics. Will have CL18 and 7th level spells, BAB 26, 2d10 fist damage with 8 APR... Something of a mix between the M20/C3/SF7 and the M6/C8/SF10/Hiero 6. More spells than the former, but still easily dispelled, a bit more damage than the latter.
Chord Silverstrings - Bard and OSR Squire / Tarent Nefzen - Arcane Wand Merchant and Master Alchemist / Irrace Arkentlar - Drow Adventurer / Finneaus Du'Veil - Gem Merchant and Executive Officer of SCCE

Tarent's Wands and Elixirs

A Wand Crafter's guide to using wands
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

Perhaps this could help you understand the character, the begininning of episode 1:



One punch man, you can probably watch it over netflix or some other place.



As for builds: I was thinking of this: http://nwn2db.com/build/?283502

Damage:

2d6
+ 10 (Strength modifier with buffs)
+ 4 (Enchantment Bonus Gauntlets)
+ 20 (Epic Divine Might)
+ 15 (Sacred Flames, with Owl's Wisdom)
+ 3 (Divine Favor)
= 59~ per hit, 8 attacks per round.


Although I guess some great smite build would fit the build better, simply due to being able to kill everything in one punch.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
User avatar
Reckeo
Posts: 214
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:02 pm

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Reckeo »

The only problem I see with the 17 pal build you posted is on epic content too low AC. I would think that you would really need more levels in monk for the added benefits of the immunities, spell resistances, and quivering palm (which kind of IS a one punch attack, although limited).

Also, the character from the short doesn't fit the fantasy concept of a paladin; he seems more the Bruce Lee apathetic type seeking the ultimate challenge (at least from the short), this would definitely coincide better with more monk than paladin. He seems to get 'high' from the thrill of finding enemies worth testing his skills, which is a motivation for his desire to be a 'super hero', as opposed to a Paladin in selfless service to a deity.

Just my two cents though. I kind of thought about the epic divine might route for a monk, but I'm not sure how it would play out build wise.
User avatar
Steve
Recognized Donor
Posts: 8143
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:42 am
Location: Paradise in GMT +1

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Steve »

I never get around to actually rolling this one up, but I think it would be enjoyable:

Paladin 21 / Monk 9

http://nwn2db.com/build/?270464

Talsorian the Conjuransmuter - The (someTIMEs) Traveler

The half-MAN, the MYrchanT(H), the LEGENDermaine ~ Jon Smythe [Bio]

Brinn Essebrenanath — Volamtar, seeking wisdom within the earth dream [Bio]
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Build Challenge: Monk/Sacred Fist/Paladin...

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

I can drop Luck of Heroes, shift some feats around and get Divine Shield for that +10 Charisma AC. Actually, I should have done it from the start. :oops:
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
Post Reply

Return to “Character Building”