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Every time it gets more ridiculous. Most of them just swarm low level locations, and even try to "rp" with you. Usually it happens like this:

*One's magical wards are so powerful that they tear space, time and reality itself apart*
Epic average: "Greetings, adventurers. Do not mind me, I am just passing through."
*goes by and causes huge amount of powerful monsters to appear*

Where he is going by "passing through" if the cave has only one exit? Why he even tries to roleplay that to make it look even worse? The reasons are unknown.

Please bring chest level restriction back. Otherwise it just allows players who are using bad builds to make gold and loot items without putting much time in their character developement/without roleplaying with others to group up/without using epic designed areas, which were created for them especially.
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It's probably the quests that bring epics back to these places..........
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King Leoric wrote:Every time it gets more ridiculous. Most of them just swarm low level locations, and even try to "rp" with you. Usually it happens like this:
Chests used to be level-restricted before, and the feature was since removed, which was a good thing.

There aren't a lot of areas on the server, and loot respawn was disabled as well. Current system also encourages interaction.

If you dislike interacting with people, the point of the server was roleplay and interacting with people.

One other thing worth keeping in mind is that low level chests seem to be giving lower quality loot, so people are sorta encourage to explore higher level locations anyway.
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NegInfinity wrote:
King Leoric wrote:Every time it gets more ridiculous. Most of them just swarm low level locations, and even try to "rp" with you. Usually it happens like this:
Chests used to be level-restricted before, and the feature was since removed, which was a good thing.

There aren't a lot of areas on the server, and loot respawn was disabled as well. Current system also encourages interaction.

If you dislike interacting with people, the point of the server was roleplay and interacting with people.

One other thing worth keeping in mind is that low level chests seem to be giving lower quality loot, so people are sorta encourage to explore higher level locations anyway.
I love roleplay, but these pcs do not have any rp reason to be at gibberling cave, for example. They cant even roleplay that correctly. I have plenty of epics, millions of gold and epic items without looting low level areas.
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Most of them just swarm low level locations, and even try to "rp" with you. Usually it happens like this:

*One's magical wards are so powerful that they tear space, time and reality itself apart*
Epic average: "Greetings, adventurers. Do not mind me, I am just passing through."
Trust me, it is much better than silent grinders who ignore you completely.
Where he is going by "passing through" if the cave has only one exit? Why he even tries to roleplay that to make it look even worse? The reasons are unknown.
This post appeared here shortly after we met at gibberling caves, what a coincidence. There is actually a tunnel to Hilltop ruins, so this is not one way dungeon. And yes, my toon was only 11 lvl.
Why he even tries to roleplay that to make it look even worse?
Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable, next time I shall follow you with a summoned giant crab without saying a word, this is how the good RP looks like I suppose.

Also some notes about dynamic CR system.
1) If I am not mistaken, the level adjustment can't exceed 4 lvls.
2) The spawns are based on the lowest level toon on the dungeon
3) Level adjustment affects HP pool mostly (the monsters don't feel much stronger in fact)

The only issue I see here is that low level chests spawn the same items as high level ones.
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KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:The only issue I see here is that low level chests spawn the same items as high level ones.
They don't actually, but they spawn sufficiently expensive items that you can make lots of gold off them at merchants.
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When you get the warning about higher than avarage mobs on the area... The warning has " *** " at the beginning and at the end regardless of who is in the area. It doesn't actually refer to level range like it does in the scrying tool.
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dedude wrote:
KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:The only issue I see here is that low level chests spawn the same items as high level ones.
They don't actually, but they spawn sufficiently expensive items that you can make lots of gold off them at merchants.
Honestly I don't feel any difference.
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KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:This post appeared here shortly after we met at gibberling caves, what a coincidence.
No, you are not the reason of this post. I am talking about epics of 21+ level only. Allowing to loot these chests up to level 15-20 will work perfectly.
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NegInfinity wrote:Chests used to be level-restricted before, and the feature was since removed, which was a good thing.
No, removing level restrictions from chests was a bad thing to do: thundering some low CR location with an epic is a circus.
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KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:Honestly I don't feel any difference.
This sentiment comes up regularly. But there are a difference, and that is mainly found in the potential for picking from a higher end table. For example, the lower level chests have 0% chance of using the highest tables, and the highest level chests have 5 times higher chance than a middle level chest. The highest level chests also never picks from the lowest table.
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SilentLord wrote:
NegInfinity wrote:Chests used to be level-restricted before, and the feature was since removed, which was a good thing.
No, removing level restrictions from chests was a bad thing to do: thundering some low CR location with an epic is a circus.

How about removing level restrictions (do-me) with people who refuse to comply with "Unless you play a cookie cutter, you don't get to do PvE at your level" being unable to get any loot because others found areas before the whole scaling thing "boring."

Let's not touch anything to make it worse than it already is.
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King Leoric wrote: I love roleplay, but these pcs do not have any rp reason to be at gibberling cave, for example. They cant even roleplay that correctly. I have plenty of epics, millions of gold and epic items without looting low level areas.
You don't know if they have a RP reason or not, and you should not assume that you understand their character better than they do.

This kind of ideas lead to very disgusting OOC conflicts.

If they're in the location, they have a RP reason to be there. End of the story. Maybe they love torturing weak creatures in the area or something.
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SilentLord wrote:
NegInfinity wrote:Chests used to be level-restricted before, and the feature was since removed, which was a good thing.
No, removing level restrictions from chests was a bad thing to do: thundering some low CR location with an epic is a circus.
Lower level locations generally spawn worse loot.

That's the reason why I don't go into gibberling caves for loot runs.
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NegInfinity wrote:If they're in the location, they have a RP reason to be there. End of the story. Maybe they love torturing weak creatures in the area or something.
:lol: Yes, sure. Seems legit.
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