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Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:32 am
by NegInfinity
I'm looking for list of favored enemis again.
It looks like standard suggestion for surface FVEs are:
UNdead, Outsiders, Monstrous Humanoids, Dragons, Giants, and pvp choices like humans/elves
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https://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... iew=unread)
What about UD?
I don't recall a lot of monstrous humanoids in UD, but there seems to be a ton of goblinoids, Abberations, and Duergar.
Basically , looking for lists of FVEs for Surface, UD, and something that perhaps might work in both realms.
Re: Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:09 am
by Khazrak
It's been a LONG time since I played UD - like, on a different account back when Amn was invading Baldur's Gate. But I remember a few things.
1. Abberations - this means Umber Hulks, Mind Flayers, and a few other things you'll find in the UD, some of them late game. Mind Flayers are a great high-end epic area as I recall, if a tough one.
2. Outsiders should still be a good choice. I'd double check this one.
3. Same for Undead. One of the starting zones has undead, and they appear a couple other times.
4. I don't recall seeing any giants in the UD. I might be wrong - my memory is fuzzy, and it has been a LONG time.
You'll also come across goblinoids in a few spots IIRC, but they're largely early leveling places. Spiders are a thing in the Upperdark I've read, so consider whatever category they fall under on NWN2 (Animals? Vermin? Magical Beasts?).
Beyond all that... Humans is probably a fair favored enemy for PvP. For obvious reasons.
Re: Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:21 am
by NegInfinity
Khazrak wrote:It's been a LONG time since I played UD - like, on a different account back when Amn was invading Baldur's Gate. But I remember a few things.
1. Abberations - this means Umber Hulks, Mind Flayers, and a few other things you'll find in the UD, some of them late game. Mind Flayers are a great high-end epic area as I recall, if a tough one.
2. Outsiders should still be a good choice. I'd double check this one.
3. Same for Undead. One of the starting zones has undead, and they appear a couple other times.
4. I don't recall seeing any giants in the UD. I might be wrong - my memory is fuzzy, and it has been a LONG time.
You'll also come across goblinoids in a few spots IIRC, but they're largely early leveling places. Spiders are a thing in the Upperdark I've read, so consider whatever category they fall under on NWN2 (Animals? Vermin? Magical Beasts?).
Beyond all that... Humans is probably a fair favored enemy for PvP. For obvious reasons.
I don't recall giants either, unless one would travel to "UD cave on surface" with ogres in it.
There are also a ton of displacer beasts, but they seem to be low level. Those are magical beasts. There are troglodytes, but I think they're reptilians. The reason why I brought goblins up is because they appear a lot at beginning, plus there's a goblin fire lake map. Not sure what's the CR is.
As for spiders... I haven't yet run into even one, although I rememebr there's a bunch of them in a new upperdark area, need to find one and appraise it to see what it is.
Re: Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 am
by Tsidkenu
The essentials, in my opinion:
1. Vermin - Spiders, crawlers, mouthers & dire osquip in Kro's, Upperdark (CR 14-18) plus bats, beetles at low level, eg. Gloura's quest, mushroom grove, Varallas' Passage.
2. Dwarves - All levels. The Upperdark near Kraak Helzak has low level (CR 3-5) duergar, then CR 10 duergar, and then CR 18+ duergar available in Flayer mines. A must have.
3. Undead - Sewer (CR 1-3), Crypt (CR 8-14)
4. Abberation - Umbers (CR ~8-10), Flayers (CR 15-18), Driders (CR 21, 26!)
5. Elementals - Earth (CR 21) & Ice (CR 14) elemental areas.
6. Outsiders - The bottom of the CR 18 duergar area has demons and devils + boss, plus a portal to epic Avernus area (if it's still there?)
Goblins are a possibility, but that's only covering CR 1-3 and 8-10 more or less. You'd prolly get more 'mileage' out of Vermin.
Re: Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 am
by NegInfinity
Tsidkenu wrote:The essentials, in my opinion:
1. Vermin - Spiders, crawlers, mouthers & dire osquip in Kro's, Upperdark (CR 14-18) plus bats, beetles at low level, eg. Gloura's quest, mushroom grove, Varallas' Passage.
2. Dwarves - All levels. The Upperdark near Kraak Helzak has low level (CR 3-5) duergar, then CR 10 duergar, and then CR 18+ duergar available in Flayer mines. A must have.
3. Undead - Sewer (CR 1-3), Crypt (CR 8-14)
4. Abberation - Umbers (CR ~8-10), Flayers (CR 15-18), Driders (CR 21, 26!)
5. Elementals - Earth (CR 21) & Ice (CR 14) elemental areas.
6. Outsiders - The bottom of the CR 18 duergar area has demons and devils + boss, plus a portal to epic Avernus area (if it's still there?)
Goblins are a possibility, but that's only covering CR 1-3 and 8-10 more or less. You'd prolly get more 'mileage' out of Vermin.
Vermin, huh.
Given that my ranger eats every bat in sight, it would make sense.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Re: Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:25 pm
by NegInfinity
I've checked Kro's Labyrinth, and it looks like there are three enemy types there.
Osquip - Beast.
Maze Spider - Vermin
Glow Spider - Magical Beast.
Hmm...