Favored Enemies - again. (UD, Surface... both?)

[NegInfinity]

I'm looking for list of favored enemis again.

It looks like standard suggestion for surface FVEs are:

UNdead, Outsiders, Monstrous Humanoids, Dragons, Giants, and pvp choices like humans/elves
(https://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... iew=unread)

What about UD?

I don't recall a lot of monstrous humanoids in UD, but there seems to be a ton of goblinoids, Abberations, and Duergar.

Basically , looking for lists of FVEs for Surface, UD, and something that perhaps might work in both realms.

[Khazrak]

It's been a LONG time since I played UD - like, on a different account back when Amn was invading Baldur's Gate. But I remember a few things.

1. Abberations - this means Umber Hulks, Mind Flayers, and a few other things you'll find in the UD, some of them late game. Mind Flayers are a great high-end epic area as I recall, if a tough one.
2. Outsiders should still be a good choice. I'd double check this one.
3. Same for Undead. One of the starting zones has undead, and they appear a couple other times.
4. I don't recall seeing any giants in the UD. I might be wrong - my memory is fuzzy, and it has been a LONG time.

You'll also come across goblinoids in a few spots IIRC, but they're largely early leveling places. Spiders are a thing in the Upperdark I've read, so consider whatever category they fall under on NWN2 (Animals? Vermin? Magical Beasts?).

Beyond all that... Humans is probably a fair favored enemy for PvP. For obvious reasons.

[NegInfinity]

It's been a LONG time since I played UD - like, on a different account back when Amn was invading Baldur's Gate. But I remember a few things.

1. Abberations - this means Umber Hulks, Mind Flayers, and a few other things you'll find in the UD, some of them late game. Mind Flayers are a great high-end epic area as I recall, if a tough one.
2. Outsiders should still be a good choice. I'd double check this one.
3. Same for Undead. One of the starting zones has undead, and they appear a couple other times.
4. I don't recall seeing any giants in the UD. I might be wrong - my memory is fuzzy, and it has been a LONG time.

You'll also come across goblinoids in a few spots IIRC, but they're largely early leveling places. Spiders are a thing in the Upperdark I've read, so consider whatever category they fall under on NWN2 (Animals? Vermin? Magical Beasts?).

Beyond all that... Humans is probably a fair favored enemy for PvP. For obvious reasons.

I don't recall giants either, unless one would travel to "UD cave on surface" with ogres in it.

There are also a ton of displacer beasts, but they seem to be low level. Those are magical beasts. There are troglodytes, but I think they're reptilians. The reason why I brought goblins up is because they appear a lot at beginning, plus there's a goblin fire lake map. Not sure what's the CR is.

As for spiders... I haven't yet run into even one, although I rememebr there's a bunch of them in a new upperdark area, need to find one and appraise it to see what it is.

[Tsidkenu]

The essentials, in my opinion:

1. Vermin - Spiders, crawlers, mouthers & dire osquip in Kro's, Upperdark (CR 14-18) plus bats, beetles at low level, eg. Gloura's quest, mushroom grove, Varallas' Passage.
2. Dwarves - All levels. The Upperdark near Kraak Helzak has low level (CR 3-5) duergar, then CR 10 duergar, and then CR 18+ duergar available in Flayer mines. A must have.
3. Undead - Sewer (CR 1-3), Crypt (CR 8-14)
4. Abberation - Umbers (CR ~8-10), Flayers (CR 15-18), Driders (CR 21, 26!)
5. Elementals - Earth (CR 21) & Ice (CR 14) elemental areas.
6. Outsiders - The bottom of the CR 18 duergar area has demons and devils + boss, plus a portal to epic Avernus area (if it's still there?)

Goblins are a possibility, but that's only covering CR 1-3 and 8-10 more or less. You'd prolly get more 'mileage' out of Vermin.

[NegInfinity]

The essentials, in my opinion:

1. Vermin - Spiders, crawlers, mouthers & dire osquip in Kro's, Upperdark (CR 14-18) plus bats, beetles at low level, eg. Gloura's quest, mushroom grove, Varallas' Passage.
2. Dwarves - All levels. The Upperdark near Kraak Helzak has low level (CR 3-5) duergar, then CR 10 duergar, and then CR 18+ duergar available in Flayer mines. A must have.
3. Undead - Sewer (CR 1-3), Crypt (CR 8-14)
4. Abberation - Umbers (CR ~8-10), Flayers (CR 15-18), Driders (CR 21, 26!)
5. Elementals - Earth (CR 21) & Ice (CR 14) elemental areas.
6. Outsiders - The bottom of the CR 18 duergar area has demons and devils + boss, plus a portal to epic Avernus area (if it's still there?)

Goblins are a possibility, but that's only covering CR 1-3 and 8-10 more or less. You'd prolly get more 'mileage' out of Vermin.

Vermin, huh.

Given that my ranger eats every bat in sight, it would make sense.

Thanks for the suggestions.

[NegInfinity]

I've checked Kro's Labyrinth, and it looks like there are three enemy types there.

Osquip - Beast.
Maze Spider - Vermin
Glow Spider - Magical Beast.

Hmm...