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Re: Monthly 100% RCR

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Dang. I've got just one toon who needs one or two skills redone. I wait so long!
But to go from 460.000-500.000xp back to level 20 for it... I just can't. No.
If it at least would be -50% and not the maximum level 20 restriction, I could live with ending back at level 23 or so.
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lum wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:01 am
-50% and not the maximum level 20 restriction, I could live with ending back at level 23 or so.
I suppose this would be a good compromise, but it won't happen.

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Re: Monthly 100% RCR

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would require more moderation of character building if they wanted to keep 3b20 rule. I forget if there was a script to check for illegal characters, but it's kind of tough as you would have to look at feats, skill splits etc. allowing you to RCR to 23 would for example allow character to build with taking all divine champion levels after level 20 for more feats.
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chad878262 wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:02 pm
would require more moderation of character building if they wanted to keep 3b20 rule. I forget if there was a script to check for illegal characters, but it's kind of tough as you would have to look at feats, skill splits etc. allowing you to RCR to 23 would for example allow character to build with taking all divine champion levels after level 20 for more feats.
I can tell you that it doesn't work that way; there's a script that checks actively if you take 3 levels of one class within the first 20 levels.
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Scorpius wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:48 pm
Factually

If something happens for 4 years then
1 year it doesn't

Itnis correct to say that this is something thatbis "usually" happening

As this last year was the exception

So im correct
I have been on this server for over 10 years ( early 2008.) And I have only ever seen 3 100% RCR periods in that time. You're factually incorrect about it being every 6 months. Last year we did have 2 RCR periods due to big changes on the server that effected characters, but that was the only time that's happened.

Also as to the above comment, indeed there is a script that checks the 3b20 rule
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Any word on when the next one may be coming around?

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AsuraKing wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:23 am
100% RCR happens when some big change is implemented that severely effects classes/builds. It's better to just expect for a 100% to never happen again than to wait for one.
Just gunna quote my last post since it's still accurate 8-)
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Re: Monthly 100% RCR

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I am a fairly new player; and I've already had my fair share of RCRs because the game is just complex.

Why not give an additional permanent option to 100% RCR for gold?
The higher your level the more you pay; similar to the XP option we have right now.

It also seems there is no real demand for gold for seasoned players, hence I cannot buy any good gear from players with gold, but 'trade only'.
Perhaps a paid RCR option could raise demand for gold.

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Or a paid option in real money.
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Roaman wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 7:58 am
I am a fairly new player; and I've already had my fair share of RCRs because the game is just complex.

Why not give an additional permanent option to 100% RCR for gold?
The higher your level the more you pay; similar to the XP option we have right now.

It also seems there is no real demand for gold for seasoned players, hence I cannot buy any good gear from players with gold, but 'trade only'.
Perhaps a paid RCR option could raise demand for gold.
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You mean Red Wizards are the epitome of altruism?!?

What in the hellz has this world come to?!?

As to the topic: the Server and story building would probably be better off of the RCR was removed. It would likely mean Players would start new Characters more often after reaching 30 (Hi Valefort!!!).

Yes, leveling a PC to 29 to discover you “screwed up” the build would suck eggs, but we learn from our mistakes, and learn even more from the painful ones! :shock:

Thus, reading that suggestion above, and imagining that paradigm, one can—I hope—easily realize how good we have it with the current RCR situation!!!
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And I think you and I agree players would be more willing to go from 1-30 if the experience weren't so tedious. Level 16 now and once I crossed 12 it became very repetitive... there are plenty of dungeons, but they are woefully short.... I've been to every cr12-16 map except ulcaster over a dozen times...
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You mean Red Wizards are the epitome of altruism?!?

What in the hellz has this world come to?!?

As to the topic: the Server and story building would probably be better off of the RCR was removed. It would likely mean Players would start new Characters more often after reaching 30 (Hi Valefort!!!).

Yes, leveling a PC to 29 to discover you “screwed up” the build would suck eggs, but we learn from our mistakes, and learn even more from the painful ones! :shock:

Thus, reading that suggestion above, and imagining that paradigm, one can—I hope—easily realize how good we have it with the current RCR situation!!!
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THE TEDIUM!!!

Sure, it’s a thing, and if you’ve done it enough like some of us, you eventually have that thought while doing it of: “why the F am I doing this again? How many brain cells does this game kill?!?”

Conversely, and to Chad’s point, another way to defeat the tedious suffering of leveling, would be to focus the Server more towards making Every. Level. Count. And to make the low, mid, and epic levels something important and useful to experience, through both Player events, DM events, and even mechanical “hurdles” that offer feelings of achievement in place of said tedious “climb” to 30, when it’s assumed your PC will be able to have the most “affect” on the Server, in terms of RP and more (the problem of a too great distance in a 1-30 level power sandbox).
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Steve wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:46 pm
THE TEDIUM!!!

Sure, it’s a thing, and if you’ve done it enough like some of us, you eventually have that thought while doing it of: “why the F am I doing this again? How many brain cells does this game kill?!?”

Conversely, and to Chad’s point, another way to defeat the tedious suffering of leveling, would be to focus the Server more towards making Every. Level. Count. And to make the low, mid, and epic levels something important and useful to experience, through both Player events, DM events, and even mechanical “hurdles” that offer feelings of achievement in place of said tedious “climb” to 30, when it’s assumed your PC will be able to have the most “affect” on the Server, in terms of RP and more (the problem of a too great distance in a 1-30 level power sandbox).
A couple thoughts on this...

I have a decent roster of 30s at this point. Both surface and UD. I tend to RP way more at 30 then at lower levels because there’s no more reason to grind. And the grind is tedious at this point.

One hurdle in making every level count, thus reducing the tedium, is the game mechanics themselves. Often if you’re building for an effective end game character you have to build in a way that some early or mid levels are just garbage. But if you plan on playing a long time then most of that character’s life will be at 30 so that’s what tends to count the most.

Also the game is intricate and it’s not difficult to get into early epics only to find you made some choices that just don’t work well in terms of the server’s end game content.

Not that I’m advocating for something like a monthly RCR for various reasons discussed above, but perhaps often enough that someone can just stick it out, knowing they’ll be able to fix their build at some not too distant future point would be not terrible.

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