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Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:56 am
by Incarnate
I'm not too sure about if the favored soul will be good for this build, as it doesn't have any cleric domains that can give it access to frost spells, and would be kind of waste to go favored soul if it doesn't fit well with the Frost Mage theme.
Suppose Favored soul is a good fit, would be good to consider building spell progression with FM and then add hierophant, would it be better to go improve sorcerer's spell progression and then add ACM, Asoc or something completely different that synergizes well with high charisma and the overall build?
Re: Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:18 am
by Sun Wukong
I would pick a '
deity' with the '
Strength domain' and have something like 11 or 13 in wisdom so that I can cast spells with a +3 wisdom item.
Strength domain gives 'Divine Power' as a level 3 spell instead of level 4, hence, with just just 5 levels of cleric you can have some casts of it. If you go up to 7 levels of cleric, you can extend it, and if you go for 9 levels of cleric, you can have two cleric levels of spells that have extended 'Divine Powers' Memorized.
Cleric will also give you easy access to both Divine Might and Divine Shield, which allows you to make better make use of your high sorcerer charisma.
I would go for a build such as: Cleric 9/Sorcerer 11/Blood Magus 6/Archmage 4 for a combined caster level of 25. You need to go cleric 3/Sorcerer 10/Blood Magus 4/Archmage 3 pre-epic to follow the '3 by 20' rule. It can be dispelled, but you can have 5+ extended Divine Powers and 3+ regular Divine Powers.
But now I realise that was not the build you desired.
Perhaps a better build for you would be a: Favored Soul 17/Bard 3/Stormsinger 10 or Favored Soul 16/Bard 4/Stormsinger 10, where Stormsinger boosts your Favored Soul spellcasting. With Extra Songs feats, you should have 17-18 Bardic songs per day. Stormsinger's stormsongs are tied to your charisma and thus a 'high charisma' Favored Soul can acquire some high DC offensive spellcasting out of those uses of Bardic Songs. Now, if you are willing to take some Turn Undead class into the mix, you can get Divine Might and Shield at the expense of some caster level. (It is not that big of a issue on a spontaneous spell caster.)
Favored Souls do not have access to Hierophant as far as I know.
Re: Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:35 am
by Incarnate
You're right, favored souls don't get access to Hierophant.
The reason I was trying to combine FS and Sorc was simply because they're both spontaneous charisma-based casters, and the favored soul part would fit something story-related.
Also, the due to the fit of the story, the deity remains fixed, so don't consider what domains can grant, as it won't be relevant, unless we're allowed to select domains that don't match the deity, which as far as I'm aware it has to match, and it that case I know what they grant if if its a cleric..
But if not spontaneous charisma-based caster, then I could go for a cleric/wizard combo with an optimal PrC, question would be where the focus would be, arcane or divine, as this definitely will affect which PrC would be a good fit.
Re: Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:08 am
by Sun Wukong
Perhaps a DC based Bard 4/Spirit Shaman 6/Stormsinger 10/Frost Mage 10 with feats Epic Spell Focus (Conjuration) might be what you are after. You just have 16 wisdom at character creation, slap a +3 Wisdom item on top of it, and then you just focus on raising your charisma as high as possible. You got those cold spells, you got summons to tank for you, and Stormsinger Songs are basically additional spells.
Re: Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:09 am
by Incarnate
Sun Wukong wrote:Perhaps a DC based Bard 4/Spirit Shaman 6/Stormsinger 10/Frost Mage 10 with feats Epic Spell Focus (Conjuration) might be what you are after. You just have 16 wisdom at character creation, slap a +3 Wisdom item on top of it, and then you just focus on raising your charisma as high as possible. You got those cold spells, you got summons to tank for you, and Stormsinger Songs are basically additional spells.
Seems like a quite odd build, at least from a rp-perspective. I wonder why you'd want to incorporate the Stormsinger, as its a cold/frost theme I'm attempting here, and the Stormsinger is a storm/weather/lightning theme.
Re: Favored Soul / Sorcerer / Frost Mage / ?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:50 am
by Sun Wukong
Well, you haven't actually written down the exact RP angle you are going for, and I cannot always read minds.
Cold focus is usually for a character that follows Auril, one of the Dieties of Dury. Some of the canon 3rd edition domains for a priest or Auril were Air, Storm, Water, and Cold, and these domains contain electrical, acid, and cold spells. Thus a Bard 4/Spirit Shaman 6/Frost Mage 10/Stormsinger 10 is a truer worshipper of Auril than you might initially consider.
But yeah, you could drop Stormsinger and instead pick Hierophant.