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To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:05 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
So guys I heard there was some kind of reusable item which has Keen property, I guess it is some kind of Keen Edge wand substitute? I was wondering how much is the duration on that, how much does it cost and can it be dispelled? Generally, I was looking for opinions is it worth now to pick Improved Critical on my Barbarian or any future builds? How do you seasoned warriors feel about that?
Thanks.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:35 am
by AC81
Don't pick it - I never have. The duration on the wands is hours and it isn't dispellable.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:39 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
Thanks mate, I will heed your advice!
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:07 am
by Tsidkenu
The exact duration is 50 mins (CL 5 x10 min/CL). 1 charge per use and 50 charges means it's a non issue, yep.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:11 am
by AC81
Hours .... lol .... oops, close enough is good enough most of the time.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:12 am
by scriver
Huh. I thought Improved Critical stacked with Keen, but looking it up I guess I was wrong.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:18 am
by Sun Wukong
It did in NWN1... You can go to the basement of Blushing Mermaid for 'Wands of Keen' if you cannot find a player crafter.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:37 pm
by samb123
The only time I would ever pick Improved Critical was if I wanted Overwhelming Critical (see:
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... g_Critical ), but that's something that I'd only bother with if I did a Weapon Master/Frenzied Beserker build, in which case I'd probably already have most of the feats I needed for Overwhelming Critical.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:38 pm
by Valefort
I pick it because I'm greedy and wands are 1 more lb to carry, something not all characters can afford leisurely ! But on an STR fighter sure, wand away.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:13 pm
by aaron22
if you are a two weapon fighter using the same weapon, wouldnt you want this so you can increase crit on both hands?
maybe it can be done from a wand with the bag open. havent tried it in a long time.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:17 pm
by chad878262
aaron22 wrote:if you are a two weapon fighter using the same weapon, wouldnt you want this so you can increase crit on both hands?
maybe it can be done from a wand with the bag open. havent tried it in a long time.
You can target weapons directly, so yes, for 2 charges you can have both your weapons keen.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:59 pm
by Deathgrowl
Sun Wukong wrote:It did in NWN1... You can go to the basement of Blushing Mermaid for 'Wands of Keen' if you cannot find a player crafter.
Blushing Mermaid one is far cheaper anyways. And I don't think it's an actual wand, more like an open consumable. No UMD needed (although I've never tried getting one on a 0 UMD character).
I also was of the impression they were 7 or 9 CL?
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:24 pm
by Valefort
They really should be dispellable >_>
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:35 pm
by chad878262
pretty sure it's the same issue as magic vestments and greater magic weapon.... can't be dispelled or breached and i thought at some point it was stated it couldn't be fixed... if it can be fixed than it should be.
Re: To Improved Critical or Not?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:17 pm
by Wandering_Woodsman
call me mental, but if you don't have UMD, then wouldn't the wands me a non usable item? I mean, sure you can keen up your weapon....if you can. If not, woudln't the talent be better?