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Monk, Monk Weapons, and Quarterstaff

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Can anyone remind me how various Monk Weapons function with Monk skills/feats/perks/abilities? I seem to recall more than just Kama being extremely useful. Quarterstaff comes to mind. I'm not sure though if I'm confusing servers, or even nwn1. It's been years since I've done monks.
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Re: Monk, Monk Weapons, and Quarterstaff

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When it comes to Flurry of Blows: kama, shuriken, unarmed, and quarterstaff can be used.

Kama:
With BAB of 26, Greater Flurry of Blows, Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting, and Haste Effect, you can have up to 18 attacks per round. Weapon Finesse feat allows you to use dexterity as a source of AB.

Shuriken:
If you take the Zen Archery feat you can use wisdom as a source of AB. The base damage of shurikens has been raised to 3d2. Additionally, while Blazing Aura epic feat works with all weapons, it can be quite nasty with shurikens on a Monk 20/Assassin 10 build. Additionally, you can use Manyshot and Greater Flurry of Blows together.

Unarmed:
More monk levels, more damage. Additionally, Monk 16 unarmed attacks are the only way to get 'Adamantine' weapon on this server. You can use strength by default, dexterity with Weapon Finesse feat, or wisdom with Intuitive Strike feat as a source of AB.

Quarterstaff:
This is a two-handed weapon that can punch quite a bit if Greater Flurry of Blows is combined with Northlander Hewing on a strength based build. But usually the quarterstaff is only used by wisdom based Monk/Cleric/Something/Something caster builds because spells grant you extra AB, BAB, and damage per hit.
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Re: Monk, Monk Weapons, and Quarterstaff

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Sun Wukong wrote:Kama:
With BAB of 26, Greater Flurry of Blows, Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting, and Haste Effect, you can have up to 18 attacks per round. Weapon Finesse feat allows you to use dexterity as a source of AB.
Should be noted that without some form to apply damage to your strikes you're hits are unlikely to cause any harm due to DR/- on most creatures in Epics, and many pre-epic. This is why Kama Monks tend to either include lots of sneak dice (14d6 sneak dice and 13 APR for 5 sneak attacks out of HiPS, yes please!) or they grab classes that will add to damage potential. An example of a non-sneak type kama monk might be F12/M11/NWN3/R4, for example. With a decent focus in Feint it can get 4d6 sneak damage, +8 from MM/EWS. Unfortunately without Epic Precision the sneak damage is not always applicable. Could also go F12/M11/WM7, but crit immunes remain an issue. For this reason in most cases a Quarterstaff Monk is better if you aren't going heavy in to sneak damage. F12/M13/SB5 is another option since you can get double INT to damage, but without Epic Precision you still get crippled by Crit immune enemies.
Sun Wukong wrote:Quarterstaff:
This is a two-handed weapon that can punch quite a bit if Greater Flurry of Blows is combined with Northlander Hewing on a strength based build. But usually the quarterstaff is only used by wisdom based Monk/Cleric/Something/Something caster builds because spells grant you extra AB, BAB, and damage per hit.
Really solid option for a F12/M11/WM7 if you don't go NH. Issue with QS monk is it really needs to go for decent STR which can make for a fairly low AC Monk. Should still be able to hit Mid-40's and high 40's with consumables (shield potions, IMA). QS improvements make it an ok weapon choice IMO.
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Re: Monk, Monk Weapons, and Quarterstaff

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Does Flurry of Blows work in armor? With fighter levels and only enough Dex for Fullplate+WM... a strength build should be relatively simple and straightforward.
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Swashbuckler (12), Assassin (10), Invisible Blade (5), Monk (3) using kamas.

High DEX, PTWF plus Flurry at -2 AB, Double INT dmg, 5d6 SA, Epic Precision, 25 DC Death Attack

IN YOUR FACE!!! :lol:

However...force this build to make a Will Save, and straight to Myrkul's House of Celebrity! 0:)

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Re: Monk, Monk Weapons, and Quarterstaff

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Vogar Eol wrote:Does Flurry of Blows work in armor? With fighter levels and only enough Dex for Fullplate+WM... a strength build should be relatively simple and straightforward.
It shouldn't, but you do get that extra bugged attack out of it.
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chad878262 wrote:Could also go F12/M11/WM7, but crit immunes remain an issue.
Get Northlander Hewing. Sure, the NH damage doesn't crit, but does it have to? It is there to cleave through damage reduction and critical hit immunities. Not to mention that in general use, the weapon master will make sure that quarterstaff crits will do more damage than the stock NH hits.
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