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 Post subject: Intimidate on other players.
Unread postPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:28 pm 
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Usally dm`s are not allowing to use social skills check at "player and player" situations. But some players on server want to do so. The problem is - they got no idea how dc of this check is calculated. Some player complained cause i ingored his intimidation. So i decided to create this topic instead of arguing with him.

Example John using intmidate on Gregor. Rolled his skill and got 50. Big number. However... Gregor just laughing. Why? I'll explain.

DC of intimidation = Target level+His Saves against fear (Will saves+bonus checks against fear) +1D20.

Math aside - to intimidate an average 30 lvl character you need to beat 60+dc. If you cant - i think its better to not even try. You are not that scary for seasoned adventurer :)

Q. I used intimidate without any problems at NWN2 original stories. Why its hard to scare another player?
A. Social skill checks never meant to be used against other players. And players usally more powerfull than bunch of thugs and poor baker you scared :)

Q. But i scared of a bunch of ogres. They looks strong! What the problem?
A. Exactly. Challenge raiting of ecnounter is based on power of enemies and their quanity. So at level 20 and maxed intimidation you scared a ogre leader, which had 10 lvl and loads of about same level troops.


P\S Fear Immune Creatures\Classes cant be intimidated at all.

P\P\S Its possible to intimidate other players of 30lvl. But you need to put a lot at indimidate skill. Get a gear for it. And yes, feats.

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 Post subject: Re: Intimidate on other players.
Unread postPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:47 pm 
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See the section under Skill Rolls:

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– Skill Rolls Between players
– Skill rolls may be used as guidelines in RP. However, a player is not required to follow any Skill rolls unless a DM enforces it. Only a DM may enforce skill rolls.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:53 pm 
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DM Mimic wrote:
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See the section under Skill Rolls:

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– Skill Rolls Between players
– Skill rolls may be used as guidelines in RP. However, a player is not required to follow any Skill rolls unless a DM enforces it. Only a DM may enforce skill rolls.


Thanks :) I'm aware of rules. But some players dont. Thats why i created this topic.

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 Post subject: Re: Intimidate on other players.
Unread postPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:24 pm 
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Glad to see someone grasping the rules so quickly.

So what is the suggestion?

Would you like the post moved to the Tips and Tricks section of the forums?

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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:40 am 
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Hawke wrote:
Glad to see someone grasping the rules so quickly.

So what is the suggestion?

Would you like the post moved to the Tips and Tricks section of the forums?


Well. i wasnt sure where to post this message. So i picked a " Suggestions and Discussion". However.. It seems some folk got a little idea bout skills mechanics and calculations of DC of skill checks. So perhaps it can be helpful at tips and tricks :)

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Mance wrote:
P\S Fear Immune Creatures\Classes cant be intimidated at all.


So that's settled then, I had someone argue agaisnt it some time ago.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:45 pm 
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Bobthehero wrote:
Mance wrote:
P\S Fear Immune Creatures\Classes cant be intimidated at all.


So that's settled then, I had someone argue agaisnt it some time ago.


A character immune to fear (such as a paladin of 3rd level or
higher) can’t be intimidated, nor can nonintelligent creatures.

Copypasted from official 3.5 PHB Book. If someone argues just look at official D&D rules :)

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Unread postPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:35 pm 
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Mance wrote:

A character immune to fear (such as a paladin of 3rd level or
higher) can’t be intimidated, nor can nonintelligent creatures.


Ooh man, I REALLY wanted to intimidate the next ooze I came across...

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