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Unread postPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:19 am 
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This has been discussed before, but i cannot stop thinking about it. Bloodlines to sorcs for a boost to RP and individuality would be awesome. obviously this could be taken too far with bonuses everywhere to the moon, but i dont think that is necessary at all. a single feat or line of sequential feats that just provide some give and take to the class for your RP purposes would be so fun.

i had the idea that come to me to try to utilize the minor, intermediate and major strengths.

minor: small bonus at level 6
intermediate: med bonus at 12
major: large bonus at level 18

we could go into details about 10 to 20 different sources, but i would imagine them to be that standard fare.

think bloodlines would make playing a sorc way more fun.

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We could chain this off the heritage feats.

Sorc 5: Initial Heritage Feat
Sorc 10: Heritage Feat 1
Sorc 15: Heritage Feat 2
Sorc 20: Heritage Feat 3
Sorc 25: Heritage Feat 4
Sorc 30: Final, Special, Feat. This could be something related to the specific heritage that grants an interesting, powerful boost. Something like dragonic heritage giving permanent true seeing and immunity to fear, fiendish heritage giving regeneration and the hellfire's warlock's summoning feat, fey heritage giving extra cold DR (perhaps 5~) and elemental resistances, things like that. They don't have to be these exact bonuses, but this is the general idea I have for it.

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Perhaps give the heritage feats a boost as well, so long as the PC has X/Y sorcerer levels. The boost would have sure to fairly powerful, for two reasons:

1) Taking raw sorcerer levels would otherwise be pretty crappy, and would deny you powerful PRCs
2) Heritage feats are, generally, pretty crappy as well on their own.

Giving boosts to heritage feats and giving free heritage feats as one takes more levels in sorcerer would be good for the flavor of sorcerer and would make taking more sorcerer levels worthwhile (introducing more build diversity).

As well, this might give an incentive for more heritage feats to be created, as well as dragonic heritage to be fleshed out a little more (as it needs some heritage feats attached to it).

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Of course, this also needs a developer who is both able and desires to take it up!

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Unread postPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:06 am 
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Great ideas, I'd love it. The way it is now, you are shoehorned into mutliclassing heavily as a Sorceror, as you get absolutely zero incentive to stay pure to the class.


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I thought things like the Dragon Disciple class was tapping in to your draconic bloodline?

Prestige classes are supposed to be what changes the dynamic of a class. There are very few classes if any that people will play "Pure" because multiclassing adds those defining features.

Personally i dont see why you need to change the bass class at all. I enjoy playing my sorc for different reasons to playing my wizard. They both have their ups and downs. but i dont see one as better than the other.

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Hmm, werent bloodlines included in Rasaels big spell update? maybe there are some nice ideas for bloodlines.


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something that could add some flavor to the class without delivering too much additional mechanical power.

let me give an example of something to consider

minor bloodline silver dragon
Req: LG,LN,NG align

Level 1: -1 Cha (an unnatural appearance is reflected in minor details on the person)
level 3: choice of 1) Darkvision 60', Skill focus spot and search or skill focus lore history and arcana.
Level 6: choice of 1) +1 str, +1 Con, +1 Nat AC or +1 ST

intermediate bloodline in silver dragon
Req: LG,LN,NG align
Level 1: -2 Dex, -5% movement speed (changes in the physiology of the character make it difficult for the character to move well.)
level 7: choice of 1) +1 Str, +1 Con or +1 Cha
Level 9: choice of 1) +1 Nat AC, +1 ST, +1 AB and Dmg to any weapon
Level 12: choice of 1) DR Cold 10, +10% Movement speed or Paralysis Immunity

Major bloodline in silver dragon
Req LG,LN,NG
Level 1: -1 wis, -2 Dex, No weapon proficiency.
Level 3: Normal weapon proficiency returned. No spell progression in class
Level 7: No spell progression
Level 10: No spell progression
Level 13: choice of 2) +1 Str, +1 Con, +1 Cha
Level 14: choice of 1) skill focus lore history and arcana, skill focus spot and search
Level 16: +5% movement speed + choice of 1) +1 Nat AC, +1 ST, +1 AB and Damage
Level 18: Cold Immunity + choice of 1) SLA: Trueseeing, Polymorph or Orb of Cold at Sorc CL 1/day

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Unread postPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:40 pm 
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Again it just seems like another way to say Dragon Disciple. The whole point of the class is tapping in to draconic blood..

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