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augment summoning

Unread post by illithid » Sat May 05, 2018 2:42 pm

Seems to be applying, then after a few seconds Str and Con both drop down. This was with Gtr Planar Binding, all forms
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by Steve » Sat May 05, 2018 5:44 pm

It's normal.

The Augment is applied but NOT blued up, so you can further buff the summons (with Bulls, Bears, etc.).
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by illithid » Sat May 05, 2018 7:49 pm

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The left is when the summon appears and the right shot about 3 secs later, so STR and CON, (whilst NOT blue but clearly increased) actually decrease for some reason. Im guessing it may be the +HD application for greater spellfocus conjuration?
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by Hawke » Sun May 06, 2018 8:26 am

Then if you look at a the none augment summon version of that guy, he should only have 25 str when summoned.
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by illithid » Sun May 06, 2018 8:45 pm

my point is why is there a reduction being made at all? why does STR start at 28 then get reduced to 27?

The HD14 has 22 str
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by Steve » Mon May 07, 2018 4:23 am

illithid wrote:my point is why is there a reduction being made at all? why does STR start at 28 then get reduced to 27?

The HD14 has 22 str
Its how the scripts work. I pointed this out months/years ago—can’t find the thread—but if I remember correctly it’s done this way so the Summons can be further buffer beyond augmentation.
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by illithid » Mon May 07, 2018 5:35 am

Ok, so something along the lines of a workaround fix, if we +5 then -1 it allows further buffing , rather than +4 which wouldn't.

Thanks Steve, I just wanted to understand the logic
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Re: augment summoning

Unread post by mrm3ntalist » Wed May 09, 2018 2:50 pm

illithid wrote:Ok, so something along the lines of a workaround fix, if we +5 then -1 it allows further buffing , rather than +4 which wouldn't.

Thanks Steve, I just wanted to understand the logic
I ll make a post about it in the QC forums, however, unless the summons are considered weak, it wont get bumped. I understand that it looks meh to have an odd stat, however, it can always be rounded down ( thus gaining no bonus ) instead of up.
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