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Summoning Questions
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:53 pm
by Apis
I was able to find, call, and bind a true-name to a focus diamond last night (which cost 333,000 gold - which I read as 33,300. Quickly realized my mistake...)
The creature bound is cool RP but only slightly better than the standard summon. 1 HD, lower STR but higher DEX, 1 AC better. I am not sure I will use it often given the type and power.
But I spent a lot of gold, and I am not a rich character (or player), so I am wondering now: Can the diamond/focus be transferred and used by others once it is bound? Or is it bound only to that character? Will I need to procure another diamond and another 333,000 coin to use it on a more appropriate character?
Re: Summoning Questions
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:44 pm
by Sun Wukong
I have no idea. * Begins casting conjure Valefort and/or Rasael and/or QC fellow.*
Re: Summoning Questions
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:54 am
by Apis
Is there any thought then of lowering the interaction cost? 330,000 gold for a summon that is only minimally enhanced seems like a lot of coin. Yes, it is an optional interaction, but the gateway to the interaction being such a high bar seems to limit this to a small subset of the player population.
The cost of the blue and canary diamond variants (which I think should also be increased slightly in looting chances), combined with such a steep cost of binding, would mean this is unattainable for a lot of players.
Is that the goal?
Are these summons only meant to be added flavor (instead of something, say, on par with an epic weapon that costs similar)?
Re: Summoning Questions
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:07 am
by Theodore01
I guess you didn't have much diplomacy ?
The negotiation includes a diplomacy check for determining the price that the being requires for its services, and the alignment distance between being and caster will influence it as well (may even make negotiation impossible)...
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Summoning
Re: Summoning Questions
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:59 am
by Apis
Theodore01 wrote:I guess you didn't have much diplomacy ?
The negotiation includes a diplomacy check for determining the price that the being requires for its services, and the alignment distance between being and caster will influence it as well (may even make negotiation impossible)...
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Summoning
Diplomacy is maxed out for the level. The alignment step may be 3 places (2 steps Law-Chaos, one Good-Evil).
The RP behind the mechanic is fun, but the price seems excessively steep for, when considering the increased attributes of the summon, what is largely an RP tool.
I guess this just isn't for everyone. Live and learn.
Re: Summoning Questions
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:49 pm
by dedude
The alignment difference definitely had an impact on the diplomacy DC, and thereby the price. I’m fairly certain your list of modifications done to that creature isn’t complete, though.
They are meant to be the pinacle of summons available to a conjurer, within each spell level, but they are quite diverse and some of them carry more RP power than mechanical power imo. There are even a few with creature models/races unavailable anywhere else on the server.