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Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:50 am
by SyntheticRose
Hi, I think I ran into a problem with the Bladesinger's Song of Celerity feat, and the way it calculates spell save DCs!

This is a Flaywind Burst (5th level Sorcerer/Wizard spell), cast through Song of Celerity with a +7 INT modifier:
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As you can see, DC14 is not appropriate for this spell, which should be DC10 + 5 (spell level) + 7 (INT modifier)! When I cast the spell normally, without using Song of Celerity, this is the result:
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Reserve feats, however, do not seem to be any different whether they're cast from the hotbar directly, or as a Song of Celerity on-hit effect! This is a Storm Bolt triggered by a prepared Arc Lightning spell, and cast through Song of Celerity (which is innate level 4th):
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As you can see, this one has the (apparently) appropriate DC21, of 10 + 4 (innate level of triggering spell) + 7 (INT modifier). I would wonder why it's not triggering at 5th, because I am a wizard and Arc Lightning is a 5th-level spell for the Sorcerer/Wizard list, but that's a different topic for a different thread.

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:22 am
by SyntheticRose
I kind of figured that, but that's not really the reason I posted the thread. The reason I posted this thread is because that save DC is wildly incorrect. XD

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:58 am
by samb123
SyntheticRose wrote:I kind of figured that, but that's not really the reason I posted the thread. The reason I posted this thread is because that save DC is wildly incorrect. XD
Is it? It could be that the documentation is incorrect.

Why not wait on the one who actually wrote the code to comment before assuming things?

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:04 pm
by chad878262
samb123 wrote:
SyntheticRose wrote:I kind of figured that, but that's not really the reason I posted the thread. The reason I posted this thread is because that save DC is wildly incorrect. XD
Is it? It could be that the documentation is incorrect.

Why not wait on the one who actually wrote the code to comment before assuming things?
I can confirm this is incorrect (unless the issue doesn't have a solution). DC spells used with song of celerity are supposed to keep the same DC (otherwise they wouldn't be nearly as useful). Song of Celerity was made to be able to apply damage spells as well as save or x spells to your weapon so having those spells with DC ~8 points or more below what it should be is not the intended implementation. Can you imagine if you made your Bladesinger DC focused (while not having the DC of a 'pure' caster, they can get mid 30's for DCs after all) and then when you hit with your sword the Wail of the Banshee effect had a DC 20 when it should have been 34 or something? Weak sauce...

It will have to wait for Valefort to see this in order to get a response on if it is something that can be fixed.

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:26 am
by Invoker
The bug is confirmed.

My CL 29, INT 30 Deathsinger had a Celerity Avasculate stun DC of 14.

That's not even possible :).

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:08 pm
by SyntheticRose
Bumping this because it fell down to page 3 and I haven't heard anything more about it.

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm
by chad878262
Valefort has been very busy IRL, might be some time yet.

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:40 pm
by Valefort
If you read the patch notes things were done, as far as I'm concerned it's fixed. If not, please report again.

Re: Song of Celerity save DCs not being calculated properly.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:42 pm
by SyntheticRose
It seems fixed to me so far! Thank you.