Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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MaskedOne1
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Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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Heya,

Is there any chance the server could be persuaded to up the duration of the Shadow Evade ability? I have played on servers in the past where the ability lasted 1 hour per SD PrC Level and 10 min per SD prC Level on a different server.

Currently it lasts 3 rounds no matter what level you are.

The ability is quite powerful, especially if you are willing to commit to the PrC. I however, do not think it is more powerful than many level 2-6 spells, such as ghostly visage, concealment, stoneskin, stone body etc.

You gain the ability at level 4 and it increases in power at levels 6, 8 and 10. The ability can be used three timer per day.

Lv4: 5% concealment, damage reduction 5/magic and +1 Dodge AC.
Lv6: 10% concealment, damage reduction 5/silver and +2 Dodge AC.
Lv8: 15% concealment, damage reduction 10/silver and +3 Dodge AC.
Lv10: 20% concealment, damage reduction 10/adamantium and +4 Dodge AC.

Apart from being a real nice mechanical ability, especially with a duration that lasts longer - which would actually make it useful, I also love the Visuals of the ability, it looks cool and fits the the feel and look of the character I created.

Lastly, maybe such a change would persuade more people to actually go for the SD cause it has cool abilities, and not just to dip for HIPS.

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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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1 min per SD lvl might be a nice compromise position here. Level 10 SDs will get 1/2 hr worth. Makes progessing in the class rather worthwhile.
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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Adamantium? Maybe just keep it silver all the way through. Not many enemies use either but silver is more common than adamantium and less common than cold iron.
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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rather important question here: what level is your SD? -not- character level, SD level

because it was changed to last one round per SD level, so if you only have a 3 level dip you will notice nothing compared to the way it was, but if you are 10 SD then it should be lasting for 1 minute per use

im still at work and get off tomorrow and can check my SD then, but i doubt it broke

evade is a rather nice ability to really bump any higher than that and the point was to give higher level SDs more out of the abilities and for the dips to basically go untouched

making it higher will only net more dips despite what you may think, because you dont need that big of a boost for too long and a higher duration with 3 levels doesnt warrant more levels

and there is nothing that will make people take SD more because it is a defensive class, you loose a LOT of sneak attack damage taking SD, but SD is the fastest and easiest path to epic dodge which is arguably the best feat in the game, and hands down the best defensive feat in the game

but if you only have 3 SD then there is nothing wrong with evade, if you have more than 3 SD i will check mine tomorrow to confirm
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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checked it and SD works fine
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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heya,

never said it does not Work as intended...

i currently have 5 levels of SD, so 5 rounds.
the info i posted in the beginning of the thread is from the feat description.

I dont think it will net you more dips, cause you need more levels of SD to get a better version of the ability. One round per SD PrC level is still way too Little in my opinion.

But hey it was just a question, i think it should be upped to like 10 min per SD PrC, but thats just me.

Currently i dont use the ability at all, it takes a round to "cast" and at level 5 (Currently) i get:
Lv4: 5% concealment, damage reduction 5/magic and +1 Dodge AC for 30 sec, why bother?

I hope staff will change it

EDIT: Also, you dont get the ability until level 4, so...
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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well you were also saying it only lasts 3 rounds regardless which isnt the case

either way its a bit doubtful the duration would be increase tho i wouldnt be against it

but having a 10 SD i tend to use it a fair bit when im fighting on her
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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heya,

the feat description says it lasts 3 rounds, and i was not able to find a description that says anything different on the forum, but i might have overlooked it.

i am hopeful it will be changed.
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Re: Shadancer Ability - Shadow Evade

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not that the in game description shouldn't be updated, but wiki accurately states shadow evade is 1 round per class level.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Shadow_Dancer
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