Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribution

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Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribution

Unread post by Tekill » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:40 am

My Paladin build has Expose Weakness and I was able to use it for the first time today. It seems to work well and is easy to use. I thought it would be an good way to offset my negative to AB for useing power attack and a tower shield.

So I thought while I was at it, heck, I might as well give the Paladin feats/spells a whirl specifically Blessed Strike. I mean a potential plus 15 EB! Yeesh! If I could get that to somehow work with EW, it would friggin noice!

The goal was to see if I could use both the Blessed Strike spell with EW at the same time.

But I could not seen to get it Blessed Strike to work at all. I tried using it to start the fight, but it did nothing it seems. There was no save and there was no increased AB or damage. I was going to try it at the end of the round but after six attacks the mob is already dead. I tried it mid round and it just seemed to stop my PC from doing anything.

No doubt others have had issues with these spells: Burning Strike, Blessed Strike and Devine Retribution. I tried to search the forums for some sort of guide on how to use them but I think there is an issue still with the search feature.

Can I get an explanation on how to use these spells/feats?
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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribu

Unread post by Tekill » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:56 am

Okay I got it. I am not sure why they were not working before but I have tested them again and they work just fine. Actually very easy to use....Buggy maybe?
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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribu

Unread post by Steve » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:44 am

A paladin has to have the spell memorized in the spell book for this to work.

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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribu

Unread post by electric mayhem » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:35 am

Actually.... when i tested my crusader. Loaded up the spellbook with those spells. Those feats worked.


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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribu

Unread post by Lanzlo » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:05 am

Yep. Crusaders can memorize them. They just caon't 'cast' them.

They work fine on my Crusader.

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Unread post by Steve » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:52 am

Christmas just came early for this Crusader!!!! <:D
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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribution

Unread post by Tekill » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:58 pm

I have been using these skills/spells (are they skills or spells?!) a bit more today and I think something seems a bit off. I use these skills with expose weakness, power attack and Divine might.
Can anyone that uses these abilities, give me a bit of input?

Does Power attack get deactivated when they are used?
When I use them - power attack is deactivated and then immediately activated. The quick slot icon still flashes as though its on.
The AB bonus works for Blessed strike, but I can not tell if the damage is there. I see with Burning Strike that the fire damage is there, but the total damage done does not seem to be higher than usual. So Im thinking the ability works but power attack is removed for that round.

I like using them at the start of a battle, but do not like using them mid battle for fear of disrupting attacks. So if its a choice between the two, I would take power attack.

When I use Expose weakness with these abilities, the attacks seem to be a bit off. Does EW disrupt the attacks for the round somehow. I will test this a bit more, and maybe it is just me but when I use EW and these abilities, I seem to attack slower, or lose attacks or something like that. When I do not use EW, and then use these abilities, it just seems my first attacks hit sooner.
Anyone else notice anything?
Probably not since I do not expect many others pallys to have EW like my snowflake pally does. :roll:
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Re: Paladin Spells: Buring & Blessed Strike & Devine Retribution

Unread post by Steve » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:57 pm

I've also noticed odd behavior, to add to Tekill's observations.

One oddity seems to be—I can't always replicate this because of finding the right mob—but if using Burning Strike and then in combat the PC gets Knockdowned, Burning Strike will NOT summon/dominate further the copy of your PC that actually applies the Burning Strike attack. So, the Burning Strike feat will fire and shows up in the Combat Log, but nothing is summoned.

That is, until the Server restarts. Then Burning Strike works again.

Also, these spells-to-Feats last 1 Round, but that isn't 1 Round as in all the PCs and mobs get in their attacks, but actually 6 seconds from when you fire off the Feat. The problem here is that if you use the Feat and your PC is in combat with multiple mobs HAVING multiple attacks, their atta k sequence may very well DELAY your PC's attacks, thus nullifying the bonus of the Feat, because 6 seconds has passed.

I've experienced this many times, where my PC uses the Feat but the summoned/dominated double doesn't even get to launch one single attack before it unsummons and disappears. So User Beware when fighting 2+ mobs and using these Feats.
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