Mass Fowl custom change

[Unity]

Dear Admins, Mods, Content Creators or whomever I must make this appeal to:

Mass Fowl has received a custom change on this server where against players it simply kills them instead of transforming them into chickens.

Now I've picked Mass Fowl for the fact that it lets me resolve pvp situations in a manner other than death. It is a major RP tool in its original implementation. But with the current changes it is simply a worse vampiric feast.

I do not even remotely understand why the change is there, especially with things like Baelful Polymorph being put into the game, so can we please revert it to normal? We can have the polymorph last until the target rests if you fear it'd be a bother for the target to get out of it. But even then, it simply offers another rp oppurtunity.

As it currently stands, I wanted to use it as a way to deal with a target in a way that doesn't lead to death, and behold, the target ended up dead on the floor. Somewhy.

Please return the spell to its intended effect. Failing that, for whatever reasons (which I truly do not understand why the change should stay), please change its description so that it reflects the change and allow a DM to replace the spell for my character, as I have no use for it in its current state.

[Valefort]

All I heard was that it was changed like that to avoid character files corruption, a pretty severe matter ! However this change is 7-8 years old and I've never looked it up or inquired about it, chances are this was made for good reasons though. As a sidenote Baleful Polymorph doesn't work permanently on PCs, for the same reason.

Another point the spell does what is stated on the description, ie changing your targets into chickens, PCs are merely an exception as all other humanoids will be turned into chickens so for all RP matters they're not killed but became chickens (for a limited duration though, obviously).

[Unity]

Right, so a warning perhaps that the spell functions different against players. And add the part about limited duration against other things. It really is a big change from the original spell description, no?

Now I get that it breaks character files or whatnot, and if that's the case, fine, but please put a label on it. It's not like RCRs are easy on the players, and its extra difficult when they happen when it's not the player's fault.

Now on that note, baleful polymorph does not work permanently on players.
Mass Fowl does not work permanently on mobs but doesn't work as intended at all on players.
Why can it not also work for a limited duration on players? Exactly as Baleful Polymorph does?

Also, can I get a replacement epic spell somehow withot getting hit with the RCR stick?

[Valefort]

Right, so my very differing thoughts about RCRs set aside... Didn't I just told you that RP wise PCs are turned into chickens and that no one looked into it for years either ?

So no you won't get a replacement on your epic spell and there's no reason to change the description of the spell either. It'll be changed to polymorph PCs into chickens too, but for a limited duration and not permanently (because yes monsters are turned into chickens permanently). Just a little bit of patience !

[Unity]

Mi scusi, me Inglesio no bueno!

I tottally seem to have missunderstood your reply. Limited polymorph on PCs, Unlimited on mobs. It's pretty much all I ask for.

[Endelyon]

While it's true that Mass Fowl in PVP is essentially a weaker version of Vampiric Feast, Vamp Feast has the caveat of being an inherently evil spell that will cause inherently inimical responses from most NPCs and a large portion of PCs as well. In fact, if you're spotted casting Vampiric Feast around the Baldur's Gate environs, it could lead to outright execution of your character. The same is not true for Mass Fowl, which you can use anywhere you want without fear of adverse reactions from onlookers (unless they're friends with the person you just chickened anyway).

The spell's duration is "permanent," a DM expressed the opinion to me that making it "not permanent" (even if it's only against PCs) somewhat cheapens the spell. It's a pretty serious spell that's meant to turn people into chickens forever, not just enough time for you to escape, and would be the equivalent of a "death sentence." Non-lethal solutions to PVP are things like Sleep, Hold Person, Solipsism, etc. Things that are simply temporary effects.

We actually will hold off on this change until we can touch base with the DMs and all get on the same page about the lore of these spells (Mass Fowl and Baleful Polymorph) and how they're intended to be RPed.

Give us a bit of time for a short staff discussion.

[chad878262]

Couldn't they just make their way to High Hedge for a dose of "anti-chickenator"?