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What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:56 pm
by Hoihe
Build

http://nwn2db.com/build/?295567

Playstyle: Don't use any wards except GMW, Heroism,Superior Resistance, Premotion and Keen Edge. Keep a Shadow Shield/MI/displacement/Deez's/Tenser's memorized in case of enemy requiring it, but ideally only use wards that are undispellable (GMW/keen), cheap to replace (heroism) or non-critical (resist, premot). Most spells are either RP utility or debuffs/CC, damage spells.

Current gear permits 43 AC without any spells, with stats of 13/24/12/25/8/17 and a bonus feat: toughness ring. AB of (at 29) of 34 with 4 attacks. 53 AC can be achieved with ICE and spells, 49 with ICE and no spells, 46 with CE. Most of my AC comes from gear rather than spells.

Thinking Toughness, Weapon Focus (Rapier) or Sembian Fencing.

Can't decide to save my own life.

Sembian would allow me to still hit things after I pop ICE if surrounded, but would reduce me form 5 to 2 attacks at 30 only to have 21+7+5+1+2=36/31 AB for 2 attacks for 6 AC. Or would allow me to have 2 attacks at 42/37 AB, but without the +2 AC.

WF would just give me a general improvement

Toughness would let me not be forced to use the Ring of the Knight and permit other rings.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:06 am
by Steve
One Weapon.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:03 am
by Hoihe
Already got that!

Deadly Defence would be counter-intuitive, as I'd sacrifice already low AB for minor damage. Resist Poison stands for OW, forgot to mark that.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:02 pm
by Hoihe
With help from ED223's damage calculator shared on discord, I have found that if the enemy has over 35 AC, then despite losing 3 attacks due to Sembian, I actually game average dmg/round thanks to more opportunities to confirm my crits.

In case of 50 AC and crazier, Sembian gives higher and higher increases in damage.

Under 35 AC, Sembian's benefit reduces further and further.

If in "fortress/panick mode" (using ICE to get 49 AC, 51 vs current target without magic), the zero-sum outcome of ICE and Sembian 6-6=0 AB change only causes minimal damage loss at 35 AC enemies.

Worst case is being swarmed by high AB, low AC enemies forcing me to use panick mode. However, if their AC is low enough, I can eschew sembian and just fight them with 29/24/19/14/9 and be fine.

Conclusion: Sembian is worth it, but I need to be careful to keep my enemy's AC in mind and whether or not I roll reliably on my last 3 attacks to hit to decide whether to use it or not.

Furthermore, in terms of flavour, it does fit the RP.

As an aside from testing: Apparently One Weapon, Expose Weakness and Sembian all stack.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:31 pm
by Ewe
Rather than toughness I would start with 17 dex instead of 18, then bump con to 12, then the 29th feat would be Great Dex 2; this way you end with 22 dex still but 12 con which grants you the same hp as toughness but also additional 1 fort. Or do that with strength instead if you'd like to have a bit of carry capacity.

Note: you would have to swap stat increases at 12 to dex, and 24 to int. This would cause you to lose 2 skill points total.


Also, your skills are a bit wrong. At least, you'll need 4 spellcraft before level 18 to qualify for practiced spellcaster.

Personal choice, but I would probably use extend spell over silent spell.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:58 pm
by Steve
One Weapon and Sembian should not stack. In actuality, they cannot both be active at the same time.

Re: What feat to get for level 29?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:00 pm
by Hoihe
Tested on the server...

Apparently they do.

Changing gloves undoes sembian though.