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Universal Banking

Unread post by metaquad4 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:25 pm

Put in an OOC universal bank so we don't constantly need to pine other people to spend their time muling.

Same result, less inconvenience for everyone. No reason not to do it, aside from possible technological hoops that can be jumped (we already have two different banks, beta and another iirc).
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Valefort » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm

No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Wolfrayne » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:35 pm

There is no real reason not too either? it would also mean less "Help my items have gone missing" messages to DM's
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by DiceyCZ » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:41 am

Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
This is a tad confusing as when the storage system was announced to be unable to be accessed in "disguise" it was also announced that a solution to make muling items easier is being prepared and hopefully will be done soon.
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Jepop » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:23 am

Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.

Good talk. :lol:
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Steve » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:07 pm

C'mon, we all know how super metagamey and OOC as (do-me) Universal Storage would be. Considering the benefits of Universal Storage can already be gotten by the current system of muling/alts/etc, adding more OOC tools to make this game less about RP Experience and more about digital value loss/gain rights, truly, truly, truly just pokes more holes in an already flimsy Medium RP Server label.
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Theodore01 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:24 pm

Just alter the RCR-bot to store/retrieve xp and gold.

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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Young Werther » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:58 pm

Since we're speaking in absolutes here: there's no reason not to. Either ban muling or make it easier so that people can play the game more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by chambordini » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:24 pm

Young Werther wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:58 pm
ban muling
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Endelyon » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:46 pm

Indeed muling is allowed but several people (myself included) would rather see it disallowed entirely. Isn't the compromise we have now better than nothing at all? :P I'm definitely more inclined to remove it entirely than I am to make it "super easy for everyone," but I'm not drawing any lines in the sand about this (nor responding in kind to such lines drawn). There's clearly a difference between tolerating something and outright sponsoring it--on BGTSCC, muling is "tolerated."

We are in discussion about ways to ease the burden of RCRing (like automatic gear/inventory transfer), but it's not exactly on anyone's agenda to make transferring items to their alternate/low level characters a trivial or common task. For that you'll still need to find a buddy to help you.

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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by mrm3ntalist » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:11 am

DiceyCZ wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:41 am
Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
This is a tad confusing as when the storage system was announced to be unable to be accessed in "disguise" it was also announced that a solution to make muling items easier is being prepared and hopefully will be done soon.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=68582
We have not outlawed muling with this decision. In fact, we will be investigating ways to make RCRing easier and simpler, so that this system is not felt to be as necessary for the purpose of RCRing. Those changes will be announced soon.
It should not be confusing. What was announced is to make rcring easier, not muling items from one character to another.

PS. Not one of those to disallow muling :dance:
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by DiceyCZ » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:24 am

mrm3ntalist wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:11 am
DiceyCZ wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:41 am
Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
This is a tad confusing as when the storage system was announced to be unable to be accessed in "disguise" it was also announced that a solution to make muling items easier is being prepared and hopefully will be done soon.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=68582
We have not outlawed muling with this decision. In fact, we will be investigating ways to make RCRing easier and simpler, so that this system is not felt to be as necessary for the purpose of RCRing. Those changes will be announced soon.
It should not be confusing. What was announced is to make rcring easier, not muling items from one character to another.

PS. Not one of those to disallow muling :dance:
Oh alright...didn't realize there is another reason for muling than rcr.
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by metaquad4 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:42 am

Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
So, you'd prefer two people being taken out of IG/RP (rather than one) and the possibility of lodging staff with unnecessary complaints to deal with (lost items, people stealing items, etc.), rather than streamlining the efficiency of the process?

I'm not seeing the logic of the anti-efficiency stance. Perhaps you could give a more comprehensive argument as to why the server would suddenly become awful if this was added?

You know it doesn't have to be in-game, right? You can allow people to put items in in-game, but only allow people to take out items in the nexus. That would serve its purpose fine.
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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Ewe » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm

Valefort wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:29 pm
No.

There's really no reason to add more OOC conveniences.
Hey Valefort, can I remind you of the rules of the suggestion forum as posted by Endelyon...?

viewtopic.php?f=407&t=54386

1. Do not dismiss the original poster's suggestion as outright unneeded.

It doesn't matter if you think that they want the game to be too easy for them or even if you think their suggestion would ruin BGTSCC and cause you to ragequit forevermore. This board is here so that anyone can make a suggestion, not so everyone else can put in their 2 cents on it as well.

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Re: Universal Banking

Unread post by Zethrenx99 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:39 pm

It could be easily abused or result in substantual glitches that could lead to lost of equipment. I'm sure that with enough time a full proof system that is stable could be developed but I think the time investment wouldn't be worth the inconvenience of asking a helpful bystander. If you need a mule for rebuilding just shoot me a tell IG if i'm around ^^,
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