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Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:54 am
by Sean Maxhell
How does it possible that only a drow deity have the Undeath domain?!?!

It does not possible that there's no chance to play a classic common human cleric necromancer.

This is ridicolous.

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:18 pm
by Mallore
Seams odd. Maybe it’s a miss...?

First. Look though the gods of FR and find a god with un death as part of the domain. Post it and ask for an adjustment. Sometimes this also may lead to noticing it was a glitch or there the whole time.

Basically it doesn’t help to do a bit of the looking in the fr to help :)


One quick Example would be Oracus lord of the undead. He’s a demon prince by all rights ((or lord)) and has preists. While slightly different then an FR god he is worshiped as a cult on Faerun and can grant divine power to the most feaverent of servants. ((If not limited depending on interruptions))

Of course there is the human god Myrkul who is the god of the dead and his Portfolio is death and the dead. Literally the word. “The dead”. Which I don’t see how he as once a neceomancer wouldn’t also have the keyword undeath unless there is some strick mechanic unknown in your statement above, race or historical point missing. Mechanics always changing it’s hard to tell with out asking. This god isn’t liked by anyone and well only necromancers would like him. I believe your question should lie in. Does Myrkul have undeath. Can he have it.

What I like about this above god is while often “dead himself”. His words are. “What is dead never stays”. ((Something those words atleast)). And often comes up in lore, adventures and still granting power to some... even while dead!! What you expect from a necromacer of the Gods. ;)

Good luck in your info hunt.

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:24 pm
by Steve
Velsharoon.

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:31 pm
by electric mayhem
If the OP's following the rules. Then our rules need updating.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Deity

Velsharoon isn't there and the OP is correct, only one of the Drow deities is listed as having undeath.

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:33 pm
by Mallore
I totally missed the drow word in the OP post. ;). Orcus. Be different. Lol. :)

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:36 pm
by VDub
Isn't 1368 when Velsharoon obtained demipower status?


Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:45 pm
by Steve
It's true that Velsharoon doesn't ascend until 1368. Shar eventually gets Undeath in the portfolio, but not until 4e times.

So yeah, that's Canon Lore for ya!

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:19 pm
by Blackman D
Mallore wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:18 pm Of course there is the human god Myrkul who is the god of the dead and his Portfolio is death and the dead. Literally the word. “The dead”. Which I don’t see how he as once a neceomancer wouldn’t also have the keyword undeath unless there is some strick mechanic unknown in your statement above, race or historical point missing. Mechanics always changing it’s hard to tell with out asking. This god isn’t liked by anyone and well only necromancers would like him. I believe your question should lie in. Does Myrkul have undeath. Can he have it.
kiaransalee and velsharoon are the two gods of undeath

the god of undeath and the god of death are -not- the same thing and are pretty much polar opposites, they do not get along

the god of death wants you to die and get over it so they can "take" your soul and put you in the wall of the faithless or put you where you need to be; the god of undeath tries to avoid all that which in turn tends to piss of the god of death

they are not compatible portfolios by any means

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:28 pm
by Ghost
Velsharoon is currently a lich red wizard of thay, if I recall correctly. His ascention happens after ToT, at least.

On other gods getting Undeath Domain, there's a chance that this might happen soon!

Re: Undeath Domain Ridicolous

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:43 pm
by Mallore
Blackman D wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:19 pm
Mallore wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:18 pm Of course there is the human god Myrkul who is the god of the dead and his Portfolio is death and the dead. Literally the word. “The dead”. Which I don’t see how he as once a neceomancer wouldn’t also have the keyword undeath unless there is some strick mechanic unknown in your statement above, race or historical point missing. Mechanics always changing it’s hard to tell with out asking. This god isn’t liked by anyone and well only necromancers would like him. I believe your question should lie in. Does Myrkul have undeath. Can he have it.
kiaransalee and velsharoon are the two gods of undeath

the god of undeath and the god of death are -not- the same thing and are pretty much polar opposites, they do not get along

the god of death wants you to die and get over it so they can "take" your soul and put you in the wall of the faithless or put you where you need to be; the god of undeath tries to avoid all that which in turn tends to piss of the god of death

they are not compatible portfolios by any means

Well... sorta. Myrkul is really bad at this and has tons of other ideas about his role and your body currently. What your stating is for sure the 3rd edition post time of troubles views but with a guy like Myrkul he is the god of both even though his portfolio isn’t printed with the word undeath. It is printed with Death and The Dead. Which is more trowback word to 70s and 80s fantasy writing meaning undead. The Dead Shall Rise, the Night of the Living Dead. The Dead all being tropes.

When books for dungeons and dragons are written often new terms are added and there is little to no need to retcon. Most these new books are sometimes referred to as Splat Books, which is basically lore dumps and mechanics to gerneatr money for the comoany. Undeath as a portfolio, as I recall correctly is a product such splat products.

Devil-lords such as Orcus also hold undeath as a sphere of influence and can grant priest powers thus the domain.

There is far more then just two gods of undeath. This also doesn’t touch the ported over eygptian like gods... Vecna is another and is perhaps the most famous of all necro gods as he is one of the most famous mods of all time.

Though the original post was Drow gods.. Orcus takes everyone as a servant and I do not see a deprived drow not be willing to take his power. Even at it’s terrible cost. ((Hey who wouldn’t want to be a future general of his)))