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Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:56 pm
by TheKai
Hello community,

With the upcoming RCR, Ill be rerolling my monk into a dwarf to begin my story. Im really torn on which to go for as they each have a cool flair to them. The RP background and future I have planned will fit any of these with one or two small adjustments.

Combat Focus Monk w/Divine Champion: http://nwn2db.com/build/?306698
Combat Focus Monk w/Fighter: http://nwn2db.com/build/?307017
Fast Healing I/II and Blazing Aura: http://nwn2db.com/build/?306626

Any thoughts or pieces of advice?

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 5:02 pm
by Steve
Hey Kai,
Why Heavy Armor in that Monk 26 / F 4 build? The AC is already so sky high outside of armor, and you could spend those 2 Feats on lots of other goodies.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 5:08 pm
by TheKai
Hey Steve,

The heavy armor feats are standing in for the combat focus line.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 7:08 pm
by Rudolph
They look a bit low damage. How much does each of them do?

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 7:45 pm
by TheKai
Rudolph wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 7:08 pm They look a bit low damage. How much does each of them do?
If I can remember how to calculate damage, it should be (roughly): 3d8 monk + 3 str + 2 Weapon Specialization + 2 Unarmed Mastery + 4 gloves + Fiery Fist + Blazing aura.

I do prefer survivability/tankiness over the damage.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:28 pm
by Svabodnik
Going with a lawful Dwarf, considering higher CON and the racial prereq. being met, if you want to get silly you can also take a look at a 16 Monk/4 Fighter/7 Dwarven Defender/3 Fist of the Forest split. One was posted by Hendrak a hot minute ago: http://nwn2db.com/build/?283840

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:47 am
by TheKai
Svabodnik wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 8:28 pm Going with a lawful Dwarf, considering higher CON and the racial prereq. being met, if you want to get silly you can also take a look at a 16 Monk/4 Fighter/7 Dwarven Defender/3 Fist of the Forest split. One was posted by Hendrak a hot minute ago: http://nwn2db.com/build/?283840
That one looks like a beast! But I like skill points

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:00 am
by Steve
Doh!

I didn't pick that up from the build notes, Kai, but I see it now.

You pretty much can't go wrong with min 20 Monk Intuitive + 10 anything.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:41 pm
by TheKai
Steve wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 7:00 am Doh!

I didn't pick that up from the build notes, Kai, but I see it now.

You pretty much can't go wrong with min 20 Monk Intuitive + 10 anything.
Good to know. I think I've settled on a happy medium between those builds. M20/F4/DC6 with the Combat Focus line and Blazing Aura

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:56 pm
by Steve
Kai,
Do consider just going Monk 20 / DC 10. You'd get 2 more Bonus Feats on 8,10 Divine Champion—and Epic Feats at that—plus better saves.

As well as Divine Wrath of +5. However, you'd have to get your CHA up to 10, else you wouldn't get the base 5 rounds.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:55 pm
by TheKai
Steve wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 12:56 pm Kai,
Do consider just going Monk 20 / DC 10. You'd get 2 more Bonus Feats on 8,10 Divine Champion—and Epic Feats at that—plus better saves.

As well as Divine Wrath of +5. However, you'd have to get your CHA up to 10, else you wouldn't get the base 5 rounds.
Are the base rounds for Divine Wrath? I did not think so according to the wiki: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Divine_wrath.

You bring up a good point though. Would allow me to get Adamantine fists earlier too

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:35 pm
by Theodore01
It's 5 rounds for a CHA 10 toon, so only 3 round for CHA 6 dwarf :cry: (i would assume)

If you have a monks ring/belt - it's a good split, without i would prefer F4 for unarmed spez/mastery.

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:40 pm
by TheKai
Theodore01 wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 2:35 pm It's 5 rounds for a CHA 10 toon, so only 3 round for CHA 6 dwarf :cry: (i would assume)

If you have a monks ring/belt - it's a good split, without i would prefer F4 for unarmed spez/mastery.

Thanks for the info. Ill change my stats to adjust

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:06 pm
by Theodore01
Oh - they altered divine wrath further.
Divine Wrath is now activated instantly and has a 5 minutes cooldown, its duration is equal to half the character's Divine Champion levels + Charisma modifier (capped at 10 rounds).
from https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Divine_Champion

(edited the other wiki link)

Re: Dwarf Monk, need help choosing 1 of 3 builds

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:28 pm
by TheKai
Theodore01 wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 3:06 pm Oh - they altered divine wrath further.
Divine Wrath is now activated instantly and has a 5 minutes cooldown, its duration is equal to half the character's Divine Champion levels + Charisma modifier (capped at 10 rounds).
from https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Divine_Champion

(edited the other wiki link)
Ah okay, so regardless of charisma modifier (even if negative), its still a base of 30 seconds with 10 Divine champion