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Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:48 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
Give rogues access to the feat Use Poison. I see no reason why assassins, blackguards, and phantoms have exclusivity over it.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:11 pm
by YourMoveHolyMan
Maybe as a rogue bonus feat. Like crippling strike.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:42 pm
by Tekill
YourMoveHolyMan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:11 pm
Maybe as a rogue bonus feat. Like crippling strike.
+1
Good idea.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:15 am
by Fury_US
Has that changed? Because I was fairly sure that Use Poison was a feat that anyone could take- Assassins and BG's got it as a class freebie (and I guess phantoms too, but I've never looked at the class that much). There shouldn't be anything preventing anyone from taking the feat (unless it was changed, and I didn't notice).
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:12 am
by YourMoveHolyMan
I assume they wanted the version that lasts longer
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:01 am
by chad878262
Fury is correct and the feat you can take is the same one given to the classes mentioned. In addition, rogue bons feats can be any feat they qualify for (though crippling strike, improved evasion, and defensive roll are required if you want epic precision and epic dodge).
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:16 am
by YourMoveHolyMan
There you go, OP!
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:27 am
by AlwaysSummer Day
What are the qualifications than? My rogue couldn't take it as either a regular feat or a bonus feat. Also
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Use_Poison
The wiki needs to be updated if that is the case.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:48 am
by chad878262
That is strange ASD... I had always understood it was a selectable feat on BG, but never really bothered to check because frankly it's not worth it. That said, if it is not a selectable feat then IMO there is no reason it should not be opened up as a general feat w/ no requirements (or minimal requirements) as using poison is certainly not the sole domain of assassins, blackguards, etc.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:07 am
by AlwaysSummer Day
I could have sworn that was the case not long ago. When I rcred last night though I was surprised to see it wasn't an option. My only low base stats were charisma (4) and intelligence (10).
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am
by Fury_US
That absolutely must have changed at some point, then- and it's a change that doesn't really make any sense. Anyone can learn to get reasonably decent with poisons, and should be able to take the feat- though few would find it worthwhile. Cannot understand why this was restricted.
Re: Rogues use poison too!
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:41 pm
by AlwaysSummer Day
I can't find any mention of it in the change logs. Maybe it is a bug?