Spirit Shaman's Blood Magic Feat

[Kaeldre]

Hey there!
I was playing around a little in JEGS training module and noticed that the blood magic feat works in conjunction with epic spells. Can someone confirm that this works on the server too?

[Nemni]

No it doesn't, sorry.

[Kaeldre]

Okay, thanks! For future referance, can I ask on what basis you are making that statement? Has it been tested in-game?

[chad878262]

because nothing works with epic spells since they are not mechanically spells, they are feats. The reason they gave epic spells a flat +5 bonus is to account for the fact that epic levels (23, 26, 29, etc.) and spell focus doesn't apply to epic spell feats. Same occurs with blood magic since it applies to SPELLS and epic spells are feats. Make sense?

[Nemni]

Okay, thanks! For future referance, can I ask on what basis you are making that statement? Has it been tested in-game?

I looked at the script for vampiric feast and I think I tried it too long ago. Epic spells (almost) only care about your ability modifier and spellcasting prodigy. Not caster levels, blood magic, or spell focus etc etc.

[Kaeldre]

I looked at the script for vampiric feast and I think I tried it too long ago. Epic spells (almost) only care about your ability modifier and spellcasting prodigy. Not caster levels, blood magic, or spell focus etc etc.

Thanks.

because nothing works with epic spells since they are not mechanically spells, they are feats. The reason they gave epic spells a flat +5 bonus is to account for the fact that epic levels (23, 26, 29, etc.) and spell focus doesn't apply to epic spell feats. Same occurs with blood magic since it applies to SPELLS and epic spells are feats. Make sense?

I see your line of reasoning. Yet, some feats do stack with epic spells. Spellcasting prodigy and shadow weave user are two examples of this. Since the shadow weave user feat states that it specifically increases the difficulty class of spells, yet works with epic spells, I thought the same might be true of the blood magic feat.