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How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by sir_blacksoutalot » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:45 am

Pretty basic question: How the heck does the spell Shadow Walk work?

I tried casting it with one of my older characters. It brought up a dialog box for me to select where I want to travel. But the only option was "No Choice."

My character has plenty of marked runes, so I expected that I would have to choose from one of those locations. But no such option appeared in the dialog box.

Anyone got a tip or two? Thirteen years after release and still learning.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Steve » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:13 pm

Cast Mark Rune on a spot on the ground (where you want the teleport to land). A dialogue box should come up asking this "mark" for a name. Give it a unique name and save/close. Next time you cast Shadow Walk, you'll get a list to choose the destination (as in options along with that No Choice one).

Actual Runes in your PCs inventory are for old people behind the times! LOL.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by sir_blacksoutalot » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:17 pm

Actual Runes in your PCs inventory are for old people behind the times! LOL.
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Heh. Thanks Steve! I never doubted and oldtimer like you would come through for me.

Now what if a certain character is denied access to the "Mark Rune" spell? What then, hmmmm? Buy a wand?
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Sputnik » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:53 pm

The 'Mark Rune' spell does not work when cast on the ground.
Hasn't for months.

Sadly, I still need to use runes on my wizard.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Steve » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm

Sputnik wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:53 pm
The 'Mark Rune' spell does not work when cast on the ground.
Hasn't for months.

Sadly, I still need to use runes on my wizard.
I just used it today!

There is one issue, however, with it: you have to mark a Place the first time you log on, after a reset. If you log on/off or between Toons, it won't stick, the marking.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Sputnik » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:51 pm

Steve wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm
If you log on/off or between Toons, it won't stick, the marking.
This is the culprit! Thanks Steve. I will try this out.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Snarfy » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:13 pm

Sputnik wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:53 pm
The 'Mark Rune' spell does not work when cast on the ground.
Hasn't for months.
What Steve said. I just marked about 8 locations using scrolls, worked fine.

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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Sputnik » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:17 am

Well I stand corrected. Tested it using this 'first character that reset, no log out' trick and it worked!

Thank you gentlemen.

Now.. another question.

How do you get rid memorized locations? :D
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Steve » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:25 am

Your PC should have gained a Manage Locations feat. Put that in the Hotbar—at least temporarily—click it and use it clean house.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Sputnik » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:42 am

Once again, thank you sir!
Very helpful knowledge.
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by sir_blacksoutalot » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:48 am

As a follow-up question, is the Search skill still important for a successful use of Shadow Walk? Because the BG wiki adds this info to the spell description:

Instead of Search Skill as bonus to your DC check you can use your Concentration Skill if higher at a -4 value.

So is it adequate to simply rely on Concentration, since most casters invest heavily in that skill already?
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Re: How does Shadow Walk work?

Unread post by Wolfrayne » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:44 am

in my experience with shadow walk i have never bothered with putting points in search as it seemed to make no difference, the random "fail" chance happens more often than with teleport (its possible to fail 10+ times in a row even if you beat the damn DC) so all in all sticking to teleport is the better option.
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