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Crusader weapon

Unread post by SiaSacham » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:05 pm

I took the crusader kit at the start of my paladin creation. She is now lvl 10 pal and her weapon of choice is rapier. But when I wield a rapier, it says that the condition for her crusader defense isn't met. The only condition listed is that she wields her weapon of choice.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Steve » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:02 pm

How it should be is that when you unequip your Rapier, the Combat Log should print "Crusader defense conditions not met."

Does the Character Sheet feat of "Weapon of Choice" say "(Rapier)?"
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by SiaSacham » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:07 pm

Yes, and it says it when I Equip it.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Steve » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:19 pm

Are you also equipping a shield along with the Rapier? And/or is this Rapier one of those with custom Shield AC on it (sold in Roaringshore)?

Cause otherwise, I'd say your PC is bugged, and you might have to RCR. Luckily, the PC is only Level 10 so you won't lose XP.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Theodore01 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:28 pm

Would assume you need to be a small race to grip a rapier two-handed.
As a medium race can't do that.

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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Steve » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:44 pm

Theodore01 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:28 pm
Would assume you need to be a small race to grip a rapier two-handed.
As a medium race can't do that.
I'm thinking this has got to be the answer. And we should update the Wiki so that all small weapons are identified to be causing this issue.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by SiaSacham » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:04 pm

She is aasimar and 10 paladin/3 duelist.

would the duelist bug the defense? and no its not one of the AC rapier, its a +3 silver, keen.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by SiaSacham » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:11 pm

So it can only be gained with 2hand weapon?
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Theodore01 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:43 pm

it's on the wiki
Weapon of choice
A Crusader must choose one two-handable weapon to specialize himself into.

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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by SiaSacham » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:57 pm

But it can be used with monkey grip?
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by chambordini » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:03 pm

Apparently you need to wield medium armor or greater. (??)

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... Class_Kit)

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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Theodore01 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:10 pm

No, none of the finessable weapons can be two-handed with a medium race.

However a small race can grip a Handaxe, kama, light hammer, mace, rapier, short sword, sickle and a whip with both hands.

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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Tsidkenu » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:59 am

Theodore01 wrote:
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No, none of the finessable weapons can be two-handed with a medium race.
This is your issue. A rapier is not a two-handed weapon for a medium-sized race, even when no shield is wielded in the off-hand slot. SRD even specifies this:
SRD20 wrote:You can’t wield a rapier in two hands in order to apply 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus to damage.
It seems that NWN2 coding has correctly applied this forgotten rule of rapiers which has an incidental flow-on effect to your intended Crusader concept.
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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by Theodore01 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:53 am

Tsidkenu wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:59 am
Theodore01 wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:10 pm
No, none of the finessable weapons can be two-handed with a medium race.
This is your issue. A rapier is not a two-handed weapon for a medium-sized race, even when no shield is wielded in the off-hand slot.
I have no issue at all, it works fine as it is designed.

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Re: Crusader weapon

Unread post by chambordini » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 pm

chambordini wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:03 pm
Apparently you need to wield medium armor or greater. (??)

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... Class_Kit)
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