Scimitar Vs Rapier for strength based dual wielding

[bono_bob]

They should theoretically be the same in terms of crit range, damage, etc. But as the scythe thread as pointed out, not all weapon types have the same equipment available out there.

I was hoping someone could give me a break down or a generalization of whatscimitar vs rapier availability is for equipment out there. Keeping in mind that said character, if i ever do roll them up will probably be in Underdark.

[chad878262]

both are medium weapons and thus require Oversized Two Weapon Fighting to avoid the extra -2 to all attacks. Rapier is piercing while Scimitar is slashing, that is essentially the only difference in which you chose. Blunt is the best overall weapon type with regard to enemies with DR, slashing and piercing is roughly equivalent so I'd say just pick the weapon you think is cooler.

[Progressive-Psy]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but AFAIK power attack don't apply to rapier's either.

Not sure if that is relevant.

And the server also offers better scimitars than rapiers, imo.

On a side note I am personally a huge fan of longswords, because the server has +4EB 2 VAMP longswords in stores, EDE Store and the epic store in East Gate.

[K'yon Oblodra]

There is also the thing that rapiers do not apply 1.5 times the strength modifier of being held without a shield or second weapon?

[chad878262]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but AFAIK power attack don't apply to rapier's either.

This is true, though I wouldn't really recommend using PA or IPA on a two weapon fighting build... Still, it's certainly relevant since you CAN use it on scimmy's but not on rapiers (unless halfling, but then you wouldn't be dual wielding them)...

And the server also offers better scimitars than rapiers, imo.

On a side note I am personally a huge fan of longswords, because the server has +4EB 2 VAMP longswords in stores, EDE Store and the epic store in East Gate.

Very relevant, especially for a newer player that may not know this. I think there is a decent epic scimitar available in stores, but to get one or two that compares with longswords available in stores you'd need to find them and that is less likely than lightning striking you on the same hair follicle 5 straight times. The rapiers out there are crap, and I am not even sure there are any good ones in the loot table either.

There is also the thing that rapiers do not apply 1.5 times the strength modifier of being held without a shield or second weapon?

True, but not really relevant to a TWF build, unless they plan on switching between TWF and sword and board. That is not exactly what I would consider an efficient use of a build, though I suppose to each their own!

[K'yon Oblodra]

There is also the thing that rapiers do not apply 1.5 times the strength modifier of being held without a shield or second weapon?

True, but not really relevant to a TWF build, unless they plan on switching between TWF and sword and board. That is not exactly what I would consider an efficient use of a build, though I suppose to each their own!

He hid his intention to go TWF in the topic... Mean

[Theodore01]

For the UD Scimitar is a good choice. There is a nice one vs. dwarfes and you'll fight a lot of dwarfes in the UD.

But yeah, having vampiric weapons helps a lot.

[bono_bob]

So what i got from conversation:

Go Scimitar instead of rapier if both fashion senses are equal and you are not using weapon finesse.

Consider lingswords and some shops have better long swords.

I will be having 7 weapon master lvls

*edit*

And too be more precise, it will be a fighter/tempest/frebzy beserker/wm build where i get minimum dex required for improved two weapon fighting to get greater two from tempest while being str based. Mithril breasplate to stilll xlint as light armor for tempest ab and ac with something like plus 4 dex gloves to get closer to max dex of armor while using frenzy beserker frenzy for +10 str and better power attack damage.

Might consider those long swords for better ab and vampiric as i might not take full advantage of crit range with lower ab. Depends on what scimitars there are.

[Theodore01]

There is basically only one (two) epic scimitar in the epic shop, but plenty of longswords.

[bono_bob]

There is basically only one (two) epic scimitar in the epic shop, but plenty of longswords.

Are they comparable in power, or just less options?

[Theodore01]

why not look at them for yourself ? (at BG market)

[bono_bob]

why not look at them for yourself ? (at BG market)

Do their npcs even sell to Drow? I could check with my current character. (There is a lot of npcs and i wasted hours already in BG and im not a fan of near future wasting more tike finding the right merchants at this time. I was just curious, everyone gave the answers I needed/expected and I am happy.)

[chad878262]

I am fairly certain the epic shop has a mirror shop keeper in Sshamath somewhere.

[Max Hatchet]

I am fairly certain the epic shop has a mirror shop keeper in Sshamath somewhere.

Does yes. Guy in main market area.

[bono_bob]

I am fairly certain the epic shop has a mirror shop keeper in Sshamath somewhere.

So which specific shop in BG is mirrored epic? Sometimes it sounds like there is more than on epic shop.