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Phantom Bear or Summon Creature IX?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:40 pm
by sir_blacksoutalot
Does anyone know the advantages of one of these spells over the other?

With the custom summon creature spells on our server and the choice to pick spirit bear, I'm not sure if Phantom Bear has any merits to make it a better choice.

Anyone familiar?

Re: Phantom Bear or Summon Creature IX?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:48 pm
by sir_blacksoutalot
Okay, I rolled the dice and went with Summon Creature IX. I was able to compare to Phantom Bear by using a scroll, so I'll go ahead and post a comparison here so that others might learn from this.

This comparison is based on my level 18 Spirit Shaman with both Greater Conjuration Spellfocus and Augment Summoning feats. Both summons will be somewhat less without those two feats applied.

SUMMON CREATURE IX: SPIRIT BEAR FORM - Duration = 1 min/CL
Str 37
Dex 13
Con 24
Int 2
Wis 12
Cha 10

HP = 340
AC = 27
BAB = 15
Attack = +27/+22/+17
Damage = 2-16+13

Fort Save = 19
Reflex Save = 13
Will Save = 7

Concealed (not sure of %)


PHANTOM BEAR - Duration = 6 secs/CL
Str 31
Dex 29
Con 20
Int 11
Wis 17
Cha 28

HP = 320
AC = 25
BAB = 20
Attack = +30/+28/+26/+24
Damage = 2-16+10, +1d8 vs Incorporeals, +1 Slashing, +4 Slashing vs Incorporeals, +1d6 Cold, +1d10 cold (odd, but copied verbatim)

Fort Save = 17
Reflex Save = 18
Will Save = 9

Concealed (not sure of %)


Hope this helps others to decide between spells. Seems these are both useful, with Phantom Bear being more situational. I may very well end up taking both spells for my Spirit Shaman since it fits his RP.

Re: Phantom Bear or Summon Creature IX?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:07 pm
by sir_blacksoutalot
Which leads to my next question: What are the "incorporeal" creatures that one might encounter on our server?

Re: Phantom Bear or Summon Creature IX?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:38 pm
by Tsidkenu
sir_blacksoutalot wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:07 pm Which leads to my next question: What are the "incorporeal" creatures that one might encounter on our server?
BG - Undercity (wraiths, shadows)
Spirit Troll Caves (Spirit trolls, shadows)
Ulcaster's Ruins (shadows)
Netheril Maze (Netherese ghosts)
Undead Crypts (wraiths; UD only)

There's probably some more around that I never explored during my time on BG.