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Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:23 pm
by Blackbird
I've found this brought up in a couple old threads and it was mentioned as a likely easily-fixed oversight: the ninja named gear is all class-locked to Assassin. This makes very little sense given the Phantom is quite literally a ninja.
To make it easy to find, here is a list of the Assassin-locked ninja gear:
Ninja Boots, Epic
Ninja Backpack, Epic
Ninja Cowl, Epic
Ninjas Robe of Stars, Epic (should probably also be "Ninja's" or "Ninja")
Wrappings of the Ninja
Ninja Darksteel
There is also a very oddly-named gauntlet item, Ki Straps, that is not available to Phantom either. May not be available to monk classes either, which...well KI Straps.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm
by chad878262
I'll take this QC side as it has come up before, but isn't trivial since Phantom is a custom class.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:34 pm
by Tanlaus
Blackbird wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:23 pm
I've found this brought up in a couple old threads and it was mentioned as a likely easily-fixed oversight: the ninja named gear is all class-locked to Assassin. This makes very little sense given the Phantom is quite literally a ninja.
To make it easy to find, here is a list of the Assassin-locked ninja gear:
Ninja Boots, Epic
Ninja Backpack, Epic
Ninja Cowl, Epic
Ninjas Robe of Stars, Epic (should probably also be "Ninja's" or "Ninja")
Wrappings of the Ninja
Ninja Darksteel
There is also a very oddly-named gauntlet item, Ki Straps, that is not available to Phantom either. May not be available to monk classes either, which...well
KI Straps.
I brought this up in my phantom analysis thread. And it’s not just ninja gear, phantoms can’t use most of the gear in the mask store (or UD version) either which seems Like an oversight since all other stealth classes/prcs are listed on who can use it.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:37 pm
by chad878262
again, as a custom class it is not trivial. I had never thought of it before, but it was brought up to me as there is simply no item property for "Phatom only". We will discuss some options between QC and dev to see what we can come up with but no promises.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:46 pm
by Blackbird
chad878262 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm
I'll take this QC side as it has come up before, but isn't trivial since Phantom is a custom class.
Much appreciated.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:48 pm
by Tanlaus
chad878262 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:37 pm
again, as a custom class it is not trivial. I had never thought of it before, but it was brought up to me as there is simply no item property for "Phatom only". We will discuss some options between QC and dev to see what we can come up with but no promises.
One thing I’ve been thinking about, and maybe there’s reasons it’s a terrible idea, is to have greater versions of all of the gear in the (is it Sun Coaster?) shop. Like we have greater capes in the epic shop, and there are greater amulets in Greenest.
One reason epic ninja gear is so popular is that it is almost the only real option for dex based stealth builds, or just stealth builds in general (Rangers included) for the hood and boots.
This kind of exacerbated the UMD dependency issue on the server
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:47 pm
by Endelyon
Turns out we actually did have an item property for this, I misinformed chad. Sorry!
Valefort fixed it for the next update. This gear should be usable by more classes now. However, unfortunately, existing ones will not get automagically updated, you'll have to ask DMs if they're willing to swap it out for the new version at their discretion (no promises there either, but it doesn't hurt to ask).
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 pm
by Tanlaus
Endelyon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:47 pm
Turns out we actually did have an item property for this, I misinformed chad. Sorry!
Valefort fixed it for the next update. This gear should be usable by more classes now. However, unfortunately, existing ones will not get automagically updated, you'll have to ask DMs if they're willing to swap it out for the new version at their discretion (no promises there either, but it doesn't hurt to ask).
My guess is if you already have it then you have the UMD for it so it’s not a big deal.
But thanks for making that change. At the very least it will help people going forwards.
Re: Ninja gear can't be used by...ninjas
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:54 pm
by Blackbird
Thanks Endelyon (and Valefort)! Everything's available now, but looks like the Ninja Darksteel katana was missed though.
