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UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:25 am
by Steve
Would it be technically possible to set all UD races to default speak Undercommon? If possible, would that be of interest to Staff/Players to make that change?
*Yes, I know that you can use the DMFI to speak Undercommon by simply keeping the GUI open and type normally in the Chat window, but still....*
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:49 am
by gotesu
While Im not sure this is your intention, perhaps even making common for UD characters only possible as a foreign language the same as undercommon to surfacers and with that to have UDer's default be undercommon and incomprehensible to surfacers and vice versa
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:29 am
by JIŘÍ
A strong NO until the different languages are displayed in chat box and not in mechanical box.
And until you can toggle language on / off without that ugly wigget needed to be opened all the time.
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:05 pm
by Steve
Well, if technically possible, those that “hear” Undercommon would have their speech show up in the Chat Window, while those toons that only speak Common would have it show up as gobblygook (in the Chat window), and vice versa.
Alternatively, maybe for general ease, Undercommon is removed entirely, and the old Common is now a universal “(under) Common” (and we’re all pretending).
Yes, because languages translate to the Combat log, it is more difficult to follow multiple Languages (eye scanning between GUI windows all the time).
Is it even possible to have languages show up in the same window, translated and/or not?
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:08 pm
by Rhifox
Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:05 pm
Yes, because languages translate to the Combat log, it is more difficult to follow multiple Languages (eye scanning between GUI windows all the time).
Is it even possible to have languages show up in the same window, translated and/or not?
Yes. Just right click your main chat window and toggle on Whispers. I have whispers showing up in both my main window and my combat log window.
*Edit* Nevermind me, I'm dumb.
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:00 pm
by Steve
Translations function as Whispers?!?
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:02 pm
by Rhifox
Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:00 pm
Translations function as Whispers?!?
Oh nevermind, ignore me, I'm an idiot. Sorry.
There was talk about changing the way translated languages worked a few weeks ago, though. Maybe Valefort can be poked about adding that.
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Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:32 pm
by JIŘÍ
Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:05 pm
Well, if technically possible, those that “hear” Undercommon would have their speech show up in the Chat Window, while those toons that only speak Common would have it show up as gobblygook (in the Chat window), and vice versa.
Alternatively, maybe for general ease, Undercommon is removed entirely, and the old Common is now a universal “(under) Common” (and we’re all pretending).
Yes, because languages translate to the Combat log, it is more difficult to follow multiple Languages (eye scanning between GUI windows all the time).
Is it even possible to have languages show up in the same window, translated and/or not?
Year ago I suggested exactly that. Some scripter said he or she could do it, but nothing happened since.
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:32 pm
by Xorena
Last I checked the gibberish along with the translation shows up in the same chat window.
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
by Tanlaus
It’s an interesting idea. One issue that would need to be addressed is that races who can choose surface or UD, like tieflings and Genasi, are automatically granted common but not under common.
Re: UDers to default speak Undercommon?
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:43 pm
by JIŘÍ
Tanlaus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
It’s an interesting idea. One issue that would need to be addressed is that races who can choose surface or UD, like tieflings and Genasi, are automatically granted common but not under common.
An easy fix. Whatever you pick gives you either common or undercommon.
But I think these changes should be done as one large language package tweaks to have all do e at once. So to pile up ideas and put up all in same shoes.