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raise dead scrolls

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:07 pm
by Blame The Rogue
had 5 failures in a row earlier today. working as intended? anything i'm missing?

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:16 pm
by Orfeas
can you elaborate what you mean by failures?

i imagine it can either be you trying to use them using use magic device (dc 30) and rolling lower than that (assuming it is cleric scrolls not the drop-only ones anyone can use), or you using them before the person dies? (when they are "dying" it does nothing they need to be dead dead to work).

if it is not one of the above some more information on what happened may be helpful for us to help.
Blame The Rogue wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:07 pm had 5 failures in a row earlier today. working as intended? anything i'm missing?

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:24 am
by EasternCheesE
Another thing can be that you tried to raise a body of player who logged off. In this case, nothing happens and it's a waste of scroll.

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:44 am
by Eternity
My guess is that you're used to the old Raise Dead scrolls that anyone can use, but now you got your hands on the "Scroll of Raise Dead" which is what someone scribes as a cleric and resells to people who think it's the real deal. That one requires a hefty use magic device check, which can fail.

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:08 am
by Theodore01
another issue occurs, if you use the scroll too fast and the dead char. hasn't arrived at the fugue yet. (loading an area takes some time on older computers -sometimes a minute or more)

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:15 am
by Blame The Rogue
my thanks for the responses, but i dont believe any of those apply to my experience

a pc fell in my battle, my pc had to finish the fight alone, then used raise dead scroll. it wouldnt let me use it on the corpse as it lay, so i picked it up, and used the scroll upon it while in my inventory, and i kept getting a blue message stating something about the magic reaches out and finds nothing to connect to and fizzles or somesuch. it wasnt too soon to attempt, as my character had to finish a fight first, which took a couple minutes. he was waiting patiently in fugue, but decided to respawn after my character got 5 failures on raise scroll attempts

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:35 am
by MrSmith
Blame The Rogue wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:15 am It wouldn't let me use it on the corpse as it lay, so I picked it up and used the scroll upon it while in my inventory, and I kept getting a blue message stating something about the magic reaches out and finds nothing to connect to and fizzles or somesuch.
Speculation and conjecture on my part, but the magic reaches out and finds nothing to connect to is probably a reference to the corpse being in your inventory, as I don't know of any item in-game we can use while it remains in our inventory... Hmm, shield broaches do. Sorry, Mate. No clue.

Cheers!

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:38 am
by Orfeas
indeed using raise dead while you are carrying someone does not seem to work, you have to use it while they are on the floor.

by "i could not use it on them" i imagine you may have had some issue targeting them after you clicked on the scroll to use it (changing the mouse icon to the spell icon), seems strange but picking the corpse up, and depositing it somewhere else in the open to target it should fix that next time

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:44 am
by Blame The Rogue
okay. thanks. i picked up the corpse because it wouldnt let me use it on the corpse as it lay on the ground, but maybe the server was being buggy at the time

perhaps we can get the scripting changed to have the scrolls recognize a corpse when in inventory, in case this happens again, to myself or others

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:10 am
by Steve
“I thought I was done for as the axe cleaved through my armor, blood began to pour out and my vision dimmed to black...but then I regained consciousness...in my companions pocket!!”

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:16 am
by Blame The Rogue
so dramatic. no, was over my shoulder :)

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:21 am
by Eternity
Did the companion use the disguise tool at any point? I get that message when trying to rez a PC that uses a fake name a lot.

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:31 am
by Theodore01
Confirmed, raising someone from inventory does not work.

Re: raise dead scrolls

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:24 pm
by Blame The Rogue
i dont believe they were disguised, but i cant say for certain, as they havent known each other for long

but ooc the character sells on auction and it's under the same character name