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Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:24 pm
by Theodore01
Build is a druid/thaumaturge 4 with lv8 spells.

Contingent Summoning always summons a Phantom Wolf regardless of which summon spell is memorized. As I only have summon monster VIII spells memorized.


From my own testing - now with Thaum5 and level9 spells - I always get the Phantom Bear (without having that spell memorized again).

Please can that be fixed, so it will recognize the memorized summon spell? (No problem if it takes the first one - if one has more than one memorized.)

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Also now with Planar Cohort (Thaum5) - the Phantom Wolf/Bear is now permanent (it seems) - definitely longer than double 1round/level ???

Is that considered a feature/bug for the classes that lack a Planar Calling or Binding spell?
If it's a feature - Will it make any other summon monster X spell also permanent?

Would have assumed Planar Cohort would do nothing for a class without planar calling or binding spells. :?

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:40 am
by Rhifox
Planar Cohort does apply to Phantom Wolf/Bear, yes. That's a feature.

As for why it's always summoning a PW regardless of which summon spell is memorized, not sure.

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:27 am
by Theodore01
Rhifox wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:40 am Planar Cohort does apply to Phantom Wolf/Bear, yes. That's a feature.
Is it possible to add an elemental cohort (spell) also, which would fit RP wise together with Druids Epic Elemental Shape?
(As Wolf/Bear fits nicely with Legendary Animal Shape.)

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:30 pm
by Theodore01
bump
- would be nice if anyone is in the mood to fix these issues. :pray:

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:03 pm
by EasternCheesE
Anyone with existing build, can you please check if this is still happening?

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:36 pm
by Planehopper
Contingent summoning has always summoned your highest level known & applicable spell - regardless of what is memorized.

Since your character knows Phantom Bear, and it is the highest level applicable spell, it will always come as the contingent casting.

((It works the same way with Arcane, using your highest known and applicable spell as the contingent regardless of what is memorized))

I don't know whether that was set up as intended or not, but 99% sure its always been that way.

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:39 pm
by EasternCheesE
Since it was answered by Planehopper, are there any issues left?

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:46 pm
by Theodore01
Planehopper wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:36 pm ((It works the same way with Arcane, using your highest known and applicable spell as the contingent regardless of what is memorized))
I don't know whether that was set up as intended or not .....
Guess it was just easier to code that way.

Would say, both my points are still valid.
And more diversity is always a good thing.

Re: Druid/Thaum + Contingent Summon

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:30 pm
by EasternCheesE
Sure. If you feel that it should be changed/adjusted, please post it to suggestions.