Techsmith of Gond level 7 Improved Critical

[zest78]

Hello there,
today i leveled up my Techsmith of Gond to level 7, during level up, the UI didn't let me choose the Improved Critical Feat, instead gave me a general Techsmith Improved Critical at the end of the character level up. Once finished leveling Improved Critical was not applied to my unarmed hits. I removed and refitted my gauntlets but nothing happened, so i wore a schyte i had in my inventory, there the Improved Critical applied, but to the schyte. So i asked a DM, who told me to go to the Imp in the Nexus and remove exp and try to level up again, i did this and leveld up again but Improved Critical did not apply again.

[Blackman D]

pretty sure there is no improve crit for unarmed attacks at all, there was some other issue, i wanna say with WM that there was some weapon missing improve crit so WM imp crit also doesnt exist (unarmed attack apparently doesnt even qual for WM anyway)

unarmed attacks by default rules are not lethal weapons so that is probably why

[zest78]

pretty sure there is no improve crit for unarmed attacks at all, there was some other issue, i wanna say with WM that there was some weapon missing improve crit so WM imp crit also doesnt exist (unarmed attack apparently doesnt even qual for WM anyway)

unarmed attacks by default rules are not lethal weapons so that is probably why

Thank you for your reply. Improved Critical Unarmed Strike exists and is a possible choice durning normal level up, you can also find that feat in a pair of gauntlets sold by the epic vendor in BG. The problem is the Techsmith level up, wich granted me Improved Critical but didn't let me choose wich one to apply.

[Blackman D]

have you tried other weapons and see if it would shift to those? sounds like it gives you imp crit to whatever is in your hand... other than your hand

[zest78]

have you tried other weapons and see if it would shift to those? sounds like it gives you imp crit to whatever is in your hand... other than your hand

I indeed tryed to equip a schyte and i gained Improved Critical with schytes, as noted by the DM who was assisting me. Nonetheless that was not what i wanted since i am a Monk

[EasternCheesE]

Hi. We will look into it

[TheKai]

To add to this,

My techsmith improved crit gives me the Improved Crit feat with weapons I don't even have in my inventory, such as Improved Critical: Dagger, Improved Critical: Longbow, etc. And its a permanent feat...it does not come and go whenever I equip a weapon.

Improved Critical: Shortspear does not show up at all.

I am a shifting build so not sure if the Polymorph shape weapons is whats messing me up as I notice for some forms I have the improved crit feat, but for others, I don't.

[EasternCheesE]

So, considering this:
Techsmith doesn't get improved critical (Unarmed) and improved critical (Shortspear), right?

[Kitunenotsume]

Shortspear is a new weapon type thanks to Rhifox's efforts. I would hazard that the Techsmith class was overlooked when the weapon went in.

[EasternCheesE]

Shortspears are added to list. Speaking of unarmed, from feat description, it states it's about crafted weapons, not bare handed fight, so it's intended.
If you believe it should provide unarmed as well because techsmith can theoretically make spiked gauntlets etc, please post it to suggestions separately so it's easier to keep track on things for us

[zest78]

Shortspears are added to list. Speaking of unarmed, from feat description, it states it's about crafted weapons, not bare handed fight, so it's intended.
If you believe it should provide unarmed as well because techsmith can theoretically make spiked gauntlets etc, please post it to suggestions separately so it's easier to keep track on things for us

Hello and thank you for your reply.

Your statement is not correct, that's what Techsmith of Gond Improved Critical says:

Techsmith Improved Critical
Type of Feat: Class
Prerequisites: Techsmith 7
Specifics: At 7th level the Techsmith's study of metals and other crafting materials, means he knows how to best utilize any weapon and find the weakspots of any armor. He aquires the Improved Critical feat for any weapon he uses.
Use: Automatic

This means that his knowledge of materials of armor (weaknesses) and weapons (strengths) lets him best use his weapon to deal damage, it does not states that he "modifies" nor "craft" his weapon to best deal damage.

And to be fair, if we talk about the meaning of the word "weapon", that's what it states:

a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage

And i think a gauntlet that improves my punches damage can be considered a weapon.

And sorry if i keep repliying here but this is a bug for me.

[EasternCheesE]

Yeah, it's more about opinions. To me, unarmed means weapons are fists themself while gloves or gauntlets are addition to it.
If you feel that unarmed should be granted too, please post it into suggestions so we don't mix up bugs and suggestions.

Currently, it's described as not a bug because it wasn't added not by mistake, but on purpose. It obviously can look like a bug and design flaw to others, so giving a suggestion to change things is normal and expected thing.

I just try to separate bug and suggestion forums for easier maintaining them.

[EasternCheesE]

Shortspears fixed, for unarmed, please make a suggestion.