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Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:59 pm
by mrm3ntalist
A: 54AC, 350HP, 40DC (lvl9 spells)

or

B: 57AC, 350HP, 39DC(lvl9 spells) + Vampiric feast

Stats are by just using self buffs

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:03 pm
by Rhifox
Clearly the second one.

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:21 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Because of the +3AC or the Vamp feast?

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:33 pm
by whatsittoya
Yes

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:53 pm
by yyj
B

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
by The_Sorting_Hat
I'm clearly building my mages wrong. How the hell did you get those stats?

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:14 am
by EasternCheesE
3 AC + Vamp feast for the cost of 1 DC? Hell yeah, it's totally worth it in my view.

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:49 am
by The Whistler
Tougher decision than it looks, depends on what you want the sorcerer to do I guess. What level spell slot do you gain with the additional charisma ?

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:11 am
by mrm3ntalist
Bonus spells for levels 2 and 6

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:13 am
by The Whistler
B then IMO

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:11 am
by Deathgrowl
The_Sorting_Hat wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am I'm clearly building my mages wrong. How the hell did you get those stats?
With that HP, I'm guessing blood magus and dragon disciple. Maybe some ICE. I doubt it's an armoured caster with that kind of DCs, but it might be.

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:56 am
by mrm3ntalist
I swapped things around based on what was said here and went for one less DC for more AC. The thing is that i dont like epic spells at all so I skipped that. The current builds are as follows. I will play around till the RCR in case any changes are needed

Efialtes - https://nwn2db.com/build/?326248
Rolav - https://nwn2db.com/build/?272885

Both builds have high AC, HP saves and high DC (both 39). Efialtes gets that high AC becasause of an item. OItherwise the AC would be around 51, with +1DC and empowered

One thing is for certain though, mechanically there is no reason to make a wizard, other than a pvp based hips wizard. With Shadow adept one can get a hips wizard with very good DCs as well - https://nwn2db.com/build/?326250

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:18 am
by Theodore01
What is the trick here ? In both sorc. builds you have +8armor/medium armor, but no still/autostill feat in the builds :?

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:26 am
by mrm3ntalist
Theodore01 wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:18 am What is the trick here ? In both sorc. builds you have +8armor/medium armor, but no still/autostill feat in the builds :?
Only the Efialtes will get armor. Rolav will get ICE. I was deciding which build will get the -20asf mith heavy plate.

Re: Sorcerer build decision

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:48 am
by Rhifox
mrm3ntalist wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:26 am-20asf mith heavy plate.
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