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Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:20 pm
by LevelSix_SYSTEM
Need to run a fairly complex backstory by the DM Team but not seeing anything to send a request to the 'team'?
All I could find was a PM link for DM Boo & DM Dialectic but not sure if I just PM one of them or if that is jumping 'rank' above the 'team' as both of them seem to be the Head DM's?

Can anyone confirm if I just need to PM one or the other or someone else entirely please?

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:26 pm
by EasternCheesE
You don't need DM approval for backstory. If you make mistakes, i believe, players will help you to sort them.
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Please read server rules, they list the limitation for PC backstories and current stories that are not appropriate. Outside of it, if it's lorewise working, it's possible, you don't need DM approval for it.

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:43 pm
by LevelSix_SYSTEM
EasternCheesE wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:26 pm You don't need DM approval for backstory. If you make mistakes, i believe, players will help you to sort them.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36831
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=45816

Please read server rules, they list the limitation for PC backstories and current stories that are not appropriate. Outside of it, if it's lorewise working, it's possible, you don't need DM approval for it.
Mrrrmm :think: well... its kinda convoluted involving a Dragon that 'gifts' their lineage as thralls to the Great Old Ones in exchange for power & the Old Ones temporal lock the thralls, basically higher dimensional beings doin what they do, & having them carry out their eldritch shenanigans in a marketing scheme crafting goods designed to work against Io/Ao and their descendants (dragons)
Character is gonna be a Warlock that pacts with the Dragon that gifted them as a thrall over 1928 years ago (arbitrary ref to year of released Cthulhu novel)
Actual Age: early 20's But no knowledge or memory of anything prior to being gifted as thrall or why she doesn't seem to age being temporal locked

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm
by PaulImposteur
I'm not sure if that's part of the actual Forgotten Realms history or a making of your own. What I'd suggest is to avoid making your own lore if it's something as gigantic on a scale such as that, and read through some of the setting books or wiki for reference and build a character within the already pre-existing lore when it draws heavily upon it when utilizing classes such as Divine Casters or Warlocks.

Creating a back-story is a great first step to building a character, its best done within the restraints of already established lore. As players we won't be creating elaborate and significant lore history. What we usually do is create characters that live within the World with the DMs controlling grand events while utilizing the source material.

If I recall as well, AO on this server isn't referred to at all, as he is an unknown force that I think one day is learned about? Time of Troubles if I recall, which is next year.

It's rad to be really invested and wanting to create a story others can interact with in the long term but, the story you offered sounds pretty encompassing to the entire server in the level of danger it could present. That's more likely for a DM to implement than to be part of a player backstory.

If that is actual Forgotten Realms history though, sounds like an interesting Warlock trying to gift cursed items like a MLM!

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:03 am
by DM SummerBreeze
If a back story is truly "out there" and you think it may not fit in with the lore, then it is best to send it to the DM team for official approval.

While we do not require players to send us every backstory, if you have some sort of special ability granted through your backstory, nobility in baldurs gate or surrounding area, or anything that may not rightly appear on your character sheet or that would otherwise give you influence in the server cities and areas, then it must be approved by the DM team for it to be considered valid.

I hope this answers the questions here.

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:22 am
by LevelSix_SYSTEM
PaulImposteur wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm I'm not sure if that's part of the actual Forgotten Realms history or a making of your own. What I'd suggest is to avoid making your own lore if it's something as gigantic on a scale such as that, and read through some of the setting books or wiki for reference and build a character within the already pre-existing lore when it draws heavily upon it when utilizing classes such as Divine Casters or Warlocks.

Creating a back-story is a great first step to building a character, its best done within the restraints of already established lore. As players we won't be creating elaborate and significant lore history. What we usually do is create characters that live within the World with the DMs controlling grand events while utilizing the source material.

If I recall as well, AO on this server isn't referred to at all, as he is an unknown force that I think one day is learned about? Time of Troubles if I recall, which is next year.

It's rad to be really invested and wanting to create a story others can interact with in the long term but, the story you offered sounds pretty encompassing to the entire server in the level of danger it could present. That's more likely for a DM to implement than to be part of a player backstory.

If that is actual Forgotten Realms history though, sounds like an interesting Warlock trying to gift cursed items like a MLM!
Dang, OK... wasn't planning on it having an impact on the server other than creating items, more of just flavor text about how the omniscient Old Ones subtlety work 'waaay' behind the scenes or 'mysterious ways' vibe, tricking a dragon with lust for power to trade for their lineage unknowingly being raised as a 'possible' unwitting pawn
I guess I'll have to go back to the drawing board and do something simpler, Ill read up on Time of Troubles again to see any plot points I can pull for a backstory(maybe something about fanboy'girl'ing over one of the fallen deities :pray: :lol: )

I know an extra-cosmic war between Io/Ao & the Old Ones of the Far Realm hasn't yet been 'outright' stated in lore & it never goes into detail as to just who is defending the 'existence' of the multiverse against the Far Realm's assault
:think: Kinda just mentioned them as a 'stand in' for the true nature/name of the Ancient primordial that 'created' the multiverse
(or 'became' it :violin: )
I'm sure the two of them likely aren't even the 'true' Ancient primordial that did so, one being merely an Aspect of the World Serpent & the other the Overgod that runs just Realmspace, not the entire multiverse
I think the lore does go into how 'according to the dragons' the entirety of the D&D 'multiverse', including Realmspace, Eberron, Earth, wildspace of Spelljammer, & all the other 'solar systems' (crystal spheres/settings), is 'made' from the body of a being 'they' call Asgorath, or Io, with that beings very blood being the 'veins' of phlogiston
(I know there's the 'Luminous being' :ugeek: but I think that's just a stand in personification of the Dungeon Master role)

But the thing is is that the Far Realm is the 'only' thing that isn't part of this being's 'multiverse' & clearly its inhabitants, even the corrupted humanoids that ended up there & turned into Kaorti, 'all' got beef with the mere existence of said 'multiverse'
I find at times there are truths hidden even within myths, even 'if' a lesser being or aspect of one is misattributed 'with' the creation of the multiverse
& the mere 'surprise' of the inhabitants of the Far Realm upon 'discovering' the Prime Material Plane due to the Kaorti as well as it causing a great urge within them to convert or destroy it...
It all just leads me to think all the lore about the 'dragon' blood, came instead from an Ancient primordial from the Far Realm,
& its blood becoming the phlogiston 'is' the true nature of the multiverse due to having been killed & forgotten by those of the Far Realm but then its body 'became' the multiverse in defiance, much to the same tune as Asmodeus's 'true' body or other Progenitor Dragons but on a exponentially 'cosmic' scale

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:43 am
by PaulImposteur
You have me at a severe disadvantage I didn't know almost any of that lol. This server has a discord with a lore channel, and plenty of places to discuss ideas. With your level of knowledge you may even be able to help others with lore, it'd be nice to have you join us there.

Also probably a great way to talk about ideas for your backstory with others with a similar knowledge as you about the lore.

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:30 am
by the_flame_of_anor
LevelSix_SYSTEM wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:22 am
PaulImposteur wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm I'm not sure if that's part of the actual Forgotten Realms history or a making of your own. What I'd suggest is to avoid making your own lore if it's something as gigantic on a scale such as that, and read through some of the setting books or wiki for reference and build a character within the already pre-existing lore when it draws heavily upon it when utilizing classes such as Divine Casters or Warlocks.

Creating a back-story is a great first step to building a character, its best done within the restraints of already established lore. As players we won't be creating elaborate and significant lore history. What we usually do is create characters that live within the World with the DMs controlling grand events while utilizing the source material.

If I recall as well, AO on this server isn't referred to at all, as he is an unknown force that I think one day is learned about? Time of Troubles if I recall, which is next year.

It's rad to be really invested and wanting to create a story others can interact with in the long term but, the story you offered sounds pretty encompassing to the entire server in the level of danger it could present. That's more likely for a DM to implement than to be part of a player backstory.

If that is actual Forgotten Realms history though, sounds like an interesting Warlock trying to gift cursed items like a MLM!
Dang, OK... wasn't planning on it having an impact on the server other than creating items, more of just flavor text about how the omniscient Old Ones subtlety work 'waaay' behind the scenes or 'mysterious ways' vibe, tricking a dragon with lust for power to trade for their lineage unknowingly being raised as a 'possible' unwitting pawn
I guess I'll have to go back to the drawing board and do something simpler, Ill read up on Time of Troubles again to see any plot points I can pull for a backstory(maybe something about fanboy'girl'ing over one of the fallen deities :pray: :lol: )

I know an extra-cosmic war between Io/Ao & the Old Ones of the Far Realm hasn't yet been 'outright' stated in lore & it never goes into detail as to just who is defending the 'existence' of the multiverse against the Far Realm's assault
:think: Kinda just mentioned them as a 'stand in' for the true nature/name of the Ancient primordial that 'created' the multiverse
(or 'became' it :violin: )
I'm sure the two of them likely aren't even the 'true' Ancient primordial that did so, one being merely an Aspect of the World Serpent & the other the Overgod that runs just Realmspace, not the entire multiverse
I think the lore does go into how 'according to the dragons' the entirety of the D&D 'multiverse', including Realmspace, Eberron, Earth, wildspace of Spelljammer, & all the other 'solar systems' (crystal spheres/settings), is 'made' from the body of a being 'they' call Asgorath, or Io, with that beings very blood being the 'veins' of phlogiston
(I know there's the 'Luminous being' :ugeek: but I think that's just a stand in personification of the Dungeon Master role)

But the thing is is that the Far Realm is the 'only' thing that isn't part of this being's 'multiverse' & clearly its inhabitants, even the corrupted humanoids that ended up there & turned into Kaorti, 'all' got beef with the mere existence of said 'multiverse'
I find at times there are truths hidden even within myths, even 'if' a lesser being or aspect of one is misattributed 'with' the creation of the multiverse
& the mere 'surprise' of the inhabitants of the Far Realm upon 'discovering' the Prime Material Plane due to the Kaorti as well as it causing a great urge within them to convert or destroy it...
It all just leads me to think all the lore about the 'dragon' blood, came instead from an Ancient primordial from the Far Realm,
& its blood becoming the phlogiston 'is' the true nature of the multiverse due to having been killed & forgotten by those of the Far Realm but then its body 'became' the multiverse in defiance, much to the same tune as Asmodeus's 'true' body or other Progenitor Dragons but on a exponentially 'cosmic' scale
Wow, the prolific use of quote marks reminded me of this video:

Re: Contacting DM 'Team' for complex backstory?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:45 pm
by whatsittoya
The tried and true adage of KISS comes to mind.