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new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:48 am
by Lockonnow
there is a new trend people are begins to copy names from others players character this cant be right the new rules say we need to registrate name of characters name so only one can have that name it is weak if some one cant make up name that is not be use the rule shall say only in the characters have been delete other can use that name

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:51 am
by yyj
It's just like in real life names are repeated sometimes. Also since a lot of people use the random name generator that is available in character creation, this sometimes is unintentional.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:56 am
by Lockonnow
but this is not real life we can only be 96 player on each server that mean we souldt take others how will you feel it i dont use name from generator much only if i have to use for mule chars it is more fun to make names of you owe .

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:57 am
by Hydros
There's always going to be an overlap in names somewhere. Especially english based names. It's a rather limited language to begin with, and as was already said, the frequent use of Random Name Generators is going to lead to the same thing.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:09 am
by Terankar
I mean if someone has an identical name, I would write the staff directly instead. No need for a rule imo.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:30 am
by Lockonnow
of couse we need a rule where we registrate name couse this is not a mmo game where have milions people play this game so yeah

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:44 am
by Hydros
A rule for this is impossible. A player can't go through and check the name of every existing character to ensure they don't accidentally pick the same first or last name, it's completely unreasonable. I really don't think this is an issue.

Now, if a situation happens like Terankar suggests, then yes, write to the staff and let them deal with it, but those are fringe cases.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:31 am
by Lockonnow
so you say that i shall use youre character name couse i have the feel it is a great name a warm name fine it is not a issus

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:52 am
by Hydros
Well, it is an issue, because you're purposefully doing it. Going out of your way to use the names of established characters isn't exactly a nice thing to do, especially when you've not spoken with that person about it.

If someone has a character with the last name Fryar, the built in name generator also has the name Fryar in its list. This will cause multiple people to have that last name, which is excusable, it's an auto generated name, and a common name at that.

Now, if you were to take the name of say, either of my characters, that's pretty clearly just you trying to prove a point, which wont work because it's not accidental. The likelyhood of someone accidentally using the names Alarielle, Nulei'ren, or Lorkhan are highly unlikely.

It's not a needed rule, just have some common courtesy, and play the game.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:15 am
by Lockonnow
all those last name i have i made from my owe mind not a generator we need the rule sorry i couse this is not a mmo game with millions of play this is more then really close to person that use time here

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:34 am
by Hydros
No, it's not an MMO, but imo you're making this a far bigger issue than it actually is. Last names often come to people suddenly in their head. They don't know why, or how, but that name sounds cool. It's often influenced by things they've seen, even at a glance.Trying to set up a rule to make last names "exclusive" just seems like it'd be far too much trouble. To use my earlier example, I've met at least 5 characters with the last name "Fryar", none of them related to eachother, it's just a common name. If you think someone has "Stolen" one of your characters last names, talk to that player. If that doesn't resolve the issue for you, talk to staff. There's no need for a blanket rule due to a couple of outliers

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:41 am
by YYA
Hydros wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:52 amNow, if you were to take the name of say, either of my characters, that's pretty clearly just you trying to prove a point, which wont work because it's not accidental. The likelyhood of someone accidentally using the names Alarielle, Nulei'ren, or Lorkhan are highly unlikely.
Both Alarielle and Nulei'ren are the type of names that would pop up in just about any online fantasy name generator, especially if you attempt to generate elven names. And if you look at the name Alarielle specifically, what do you get when you remove the 'la' and 'le' from it? Alarielle, or just the age old English girl's name of Ariel. You know, like the little mermaid.

And I have personally had several characters named 'Oswyn' on this server, and as for the name of Lorkhan. During the past 13 or so years, I have seen humans, dwarves, gnomes, half-orcs, and even grey orcs with that name. You know, it kind of sounds like some Scandinavian name, so it has been used a lot. Not to mention that if you have played those Elder Scrolls video games, the third game -- Morrowind -- literally had a heart of a god known as the Heart of Lorkhan in it. So yeah, in my eyes, anyone who uses the name of Lorkhan kind of gives an OOC nod that their character is likely some kind of powerhungry megalomaniac, and most likely some kind of an arcanist. Oh, and if you are the Lorkhan player from 13 or so years ago, you still haven't paid back the 1200 gold coins you borrowed for a +1 Shortsword.
Lockonnow wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:15 amall those last name i have i made from my owe mind not a generator we need the rule sorry i couse this is not a mmo game with millions of play this is more then really close to person that use time here

I have not seen or interacted with your characters in years, I cannot even recall a single name used by your characters, but what I do recall is that your character names were just mispelled names and words. People tend to come up with new fantasy names by mispelling pre-existing words or names. For example, you could encounter someone in real with the surname of 'Goodfellow' -- if you use that as a basis for a fantasy name, you could add or remove random vowels or consonants, or entire syllables, and you could end up with something like: 'Goodefell.' I think I like that surname, so I might use it for something.

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And finally, let us consider the actual state of this server. My previous ban from this server was literally because the Dungeon Masters here decided that my character's name was too 'similar' -- not identical, just similar -- to a name of a character once used by another player, a character I had not seen being actively played in literal years, and they decided that I was 'attacking' this other player. What makes the whole situation even funnier is the very fact that just a few years prior, our 'attacked' player had started a twelve page forum thread complaining that I had 'RCRed' characters he happened to like and role-play with.

So with all of the above in mind, do you really want to turn this serve into a place where the Dungeon Masters decide the names your characters use? I mean, you cannot trust the mere players to not err by making a similar enough character name, so naturally it is the dungeon masters who must give their stamp of approval for every single character, and every single name to be used on this server. And honestly, how certain are you that your character's name has not been used her before?

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Which brings me to the counter suggestion, let people name their characters, and as long as the name is a name, let it be. And you know, Dungeon Masters could spend their time on actually being Dungeon Masters by hosting events instead of inspecting endless lists of names.

And speaking of names that I actually remember from players of this name, Arkaine Half-Orken is the only one. A half-orc Paladin, although if it is your first time hearing it, you might have thought that it was the name of a half-orc sorcerer or warlock. Arkaine is quite close to the word arcane, and Half-Orken to a half-orc.

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Your character names are nothing special, and neither are mine to tell the truth. Except the gnome name of 'Puckykluck Glowndoodle' that I once came up with, and if someone else wishes to use, it would be nothing but my honour. Fill the whole server with Puckyklucks.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:36 am
by Hoihe
YYA wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:41 am
And finally, let us consider the actual state of this server. My previous ban from this server was literally because the Dungeon Masters here decided that my character's name was too 'similar' -- not identical, just similar -- to a name of a character once used by another player, a character I had not seen being actively played in literal years, and they decided that I was 'attacking' this other player. What makes the whole situation even funnier is the very fact that just a few years prior, our 'attacked' player had started a twelve page forum thread complaining that I had 'RCRed' characters he happened to like and role-play with.


Clarification.

My character's name in question:

Hoihe Dacino.

She was being actively played between 2011 to this day, and into the future. Only differentiation is that around 2016 's summer/fall, the character moved her birthname to a middle name category, while taking up a new name in honour of Sehanine in form of "Lafali'Atria" - thus Hoihe Dacino was turned into Lafali'Atria Hoihe Dacino.



The name of the character YYA played:

Hoihiner Daciner.


Which, I cannot see any reason bar parody and attack, to exist.

"Dacino" was obtained in Star Wars Galaxies's pre-cu random name generator. Likewise for Hoihe.

Dacino exists apparently as a chinese bag manufacturer, but no other entries I could find on google.
Hoihe seems to exist as some kind of indian word.

The character you were playing had nothing to do with indian stuff or chinese bags. Instead its appearance was eerily... relevant.

Instead, it was an adventurer with major delusions of grandeur which you documented rather thoroughly in a public journal.

Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:01 am
by edmaster
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Re: new rule for names

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:01 pm
by whatsittoya
Always use a last name.

The probability of (accidentally) using the same first and last name as another character is vastly smaller.