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concentration skills
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:47 am
by Lockonnow
I have been thinking about when the target hit the miss from Arcane caster or warlocks or others that can make a miss roll that mean roll one there no feat that will help not the steadfast and that epic resilence how about concentration skills help, could that be add to help more ? so we will get 1 extre point per 10 skills point of concentration it is like that feat call hide in shadow it need point to to get hide in the shadow and you get better whan you lvl up so could we do the same it is like spellcraft give extre to make saves if you dont use any items with saves on so iam thinking concentration sould work on you rolls so it will hit more offer then i will get a miss.
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:45 pm
by YYA
So, if I understood correctly, when a caster must make a Concentration roll to avoid their spell-casting from being interrupted, you would like to have some kind additional bonus with the Concentration roll?
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:27 pm
by Lockonnow
yes or no it is if you blast miss the target it is if not interrupted but miss target you dont have to be interrupted by miss the target whan you get interrupted you get hit but it is you blast that sould not miss in the rolls you get it now?
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:04 pm
by Kitunenotsume
I think what is being asked here is for a feat that provides +1 to touch-attack AB (The OP explicitly referencing ranged-touch-attacks) per 10 ranks in concentration (Or some similar ratio).
Is that correct, Lockonnow?
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:51 am
by Lockonnow
not a feat but only 10 ranks in concentration the spellcraft didt get a feat but their give saves after 10 skills point if you dont use any items with saves and their can tell what spell is use against you.
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:21 am
by DaloLorn
Kitunenotsume wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:04 pm
I think what is being asked here is for a feat that provides +1 to touch-attack AB (The OP explicitly referencing ranged-touch-attacks) per 10 ranks in concentration (Or some similar ratio).
Is that correct, Lockonnow?
He's asking for Concentration to provide buffs similar to Tumble or Spellcraft, which give you Dodge AC and Universal vs Spells, respectively, for every time you exceed a certain threshold.
The proposed buff does seem to be centered around touch AB, yes.
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 am
by YYA
Something like +3 or +6 to Touch Attack Bonus from 30 Concentration? Well, I have no objection on the face of it, because Touch Attacks tend to land pretty much always when you get past the 10+ BAB region. I suppose such a boost would be nice for casters that do not use a weapon, or do not multi-class into Medium or High BAB classes... But overall;
5 (Greater Magic Weapon on a Weapon)
+ 15 (Tenser's Transformation, on a Wizard 30, for example)
+ 4 (Greater Heroism)
+ 6 (From Concentration Skill) ...
= 20
Once the Tenser's Transformation change goes in, the casters that would most benefited from this change could just cast Tenser's Transformation and pretty much only miss with that roll of a one -- or simply because they are holding a weapon, and the target comes with some missile deflection property or immunity.
So either way, it would be a change that wouldn't really have much of an impact.
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:23 am
by DaloLorn
I think it would mostly have an impact in PvP, against high-DEX builds or monks.
Re: concentration skills
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:07 pm
by Lockonnow
I did talk about blast so it was range touch attack but it is about the Blast that that failed the hit as the one say miss roll one so if the concentration skills give extre to help those that blast to hit is mark