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Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:56 am
by cosmic ray
According to the wiki page below, this spell cannot be extended. Is this intended or a bug? If the former, what is the reason?

Can it be empowered and maximised?

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Thorn_Skin

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:31 am
by YYA
Have a look at the fourth level spells in the Druidic spell book, you can get by with just one or two casts of Freedom of Movement, and your Animal Companion might not really need that Stoneskin spell either, where as you yourself can have Greater Stone Skin and Premonition at later levels. Therefore, you could have a lot of Extended Thorn Skins, and way back when this spell was originally added, the server really did not have all that much custom content to begin with. Thus, I suppose you can chalk it up on balance concerns.

I mean, why give druids extra 1d4 piercing damage for six minutes a cast when they already got that 1d8 Fire Damage and 3d6 Electrical damage, while a non-magical characters can only look at some +3 weapon with +1 elemental damage at best, and only really if one gets lucky in a Dungeon Master event...

But have you tried if you can actually extend that spell? It has been forever since I played my Spirit Shaman, and even though I did use that spell a lot, I am not sure if I extended it or not. Empowered and Maximize should be a no, but then again, been a forever.

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:51 pm
by cosmic ray
Indeed it cannot be extended. I don't know about druids, but for a cleric with the retribution domain, such as the one I play, this domain spell becomes 100% useless, since it competes with extended Divine Favour for spell slots, which is by far a superior spell, even if it doesn't last as long. It lasts long enough.

If the logic behind this seemingly arbitrary restriction is indeed what YYA explained, could the removal of such a restriction be reviewed? 1d4 piercing damage is a pitiful thing which quite a few monster types resist.

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:32 am
by EasternCheesE
Took this one to Dev discussion to get the info why it's not extendable and if they consider to make it extendable.

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:59 pm
by Anchor
Hello,

Any updates on this request?

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:19 am
by EasternCheesE
Not yet, sorry. Bumped it again, maybe Devs will have time to review it soon.

Re: Extended Thorn Skin

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:51 am
by EasternCheesE
As i got reply, it's not extendable because it's also in ranger's spell list and since it applies to sheet rather than weapon, it works for dual-wielding.
By making it non-extendable, Devs made it not so useful for dual-wielding rangers.