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GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:06 pm
by mrm3ntalist
0:) :dance: :violin:

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:17 pm
by TheKai
Elves are boomin!

Also, hey m3nt!

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:59 pm
by mrm3ntalist
TheKai wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:17 pmAlso, hey m3nt!
Hey KAi! Good to see you back. Time to make a wood elf champion of Corellon

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:06 pm
by Grendunor
mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:06 pm 0:) :dance: :violin:
What is it and will it put chest hair on an elf?
asking for a friend

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:16 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Grendunor wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:06 pm
mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:06 pm 0:) :dance: :violin:
What is it and will it put chest hair on an elf?
asking for a friend
Oh ye, CmdKrieg will have wet dreams over this.

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:11 am
by YYA
I think this is on the wrong part of these forums... Or is this just a preview for the topic where you request for its addition? :lol:

And let us see... A ten level PRC that gets high BAB, in addition to high Fortitude and Will saves, d10 Hit Die, and the following class abilities:
- Lay on Hands,
- A total of 4 Fighter Bonus feats,
- A dexterity version of Swashbuckler's Insightful Strike for Longswords and Rapiers,
- +3 to the Maximum Dexterity Bonus offered by any medium or heavy armor, including armors made out of mithral. (You can use a tower shield)
- +2 AB and 2d6 for one round for 3 + 'charisma modifier' times per day.

And what the PRC requires: You must be a non-evil worshipper of Corellon Latherian, with 4 ranks in Diplomacy skill and 2 ranks in Knowledge (religion) skill, in addition to the following feats: Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mounted Combat True Believer, Martial Weapon Proficiency, Armor Proficiency (heavy), and Weapon Focus (longsword or rapier).

Alright, let us think this through:

Fighter 12/Anointed Knight 4/Champion of Corellen Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 4 (Because why not?)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 13, DEX 17, CON 9, INT 18, WIS 8, CHA 8. All ability score increases go into dexterity, so you could relatively easily reach something like 32 Dexterity (Modifier of +11) with a +3 Dexterity Item.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Dexterity)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 2 (Tower Shield)
- 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
= 43

And the damage per hit:
1d6 (Rapier)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 3 (Strength with that Belt of Growth)
+ 1d4 (Deadly Defense)
+ 11 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 32~ Per Hit. (Anointed Knight ability increases critical hit damage)

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 8 (+4 Tower Shield)
+ 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 58


And if you want to make use of the Longsword... You might consider a build such as: Fighter 12/Frenzied Berserker 5/Champion of Corellon Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 3 (Because why not)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 17, DEX 18, CON 9, INT 14, WIS 8, CHA 8. First ability score increase goes into Dexterity and the rest into Strength, thus with +4 Strength item and +3 Dexterity item, you could easily reach 32 Strength 22 Dexterity for +11 and +6 ability score modifiers respectively.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Strength)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 6 (Improved Power Attack)
= 45

And the damage per hit:
1d8 (Longsword)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 16 (Strength modifier, when longsword is held two handed)
+ 20 (Enchanced Improved Power Attack)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 58.5~ Per Hit.

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 4 (Shield Wand)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 48

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:59 am
by Rhifox
Moved to Suggestions and Discussion.

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:35 am
by mrm3ntalist
Did you read the BG's implementations before this wall of text?
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YYA wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:11 am I think this is on the wrong part of these forums... Or is this just a preview for the topic where you request for its addition? :lol:

And let us see... A ten level PRC that gets high BAB, in addition to high Fortitude and Will saves, d10 Hit Die, and the following class abilities:
- Lay on Hands,
- A total of 4 Fighter Bonus feats,
- A dexterity version of Swashbuckler's Insightful Strike for Longswords and Rapiers,
- +3 to the Maximum Dexterity Bonus offered by any medium or heavy armor, including armors made out of mithral. (You can use a tower shield)
- +2 AB and 2d6 for one round for 3 + 'charisma modifier' times per day.

And what the PRC requires: You must be a non-evil worshipper of Corellon Latherian, with 4 ranks in Diplomacy skill and 2 ranks in Knowledge (religion) skill, in addition to the following feats: Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mounted Combat True Believer, Martial Weapon Proficiency, Armor Proficiency (heavy), and Weapon Focus (longsword or rapier).

Alright, let us think this through:

Fighter 12/Anointed Knight 4/Champion of Corellen Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 4 (Because why not?)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 13, DEX 17, CON 9, INT 18, WIS 8, CHA 8. All ability score increases go into dexterity, so you could relatively easily reach something like 32 Dexterity (Modifier of +11) with a +3 Dexterity Item.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Dexterity)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 2 (Tower Shield)
- 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
= 43

And the damage per hit:
1d6 (Rapier)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 3 (Strength with that Belt of Growth)
+ 1d4 (Deadly Defense)
+ 11 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 32~ Per Hit. (Anointed Knight ability increases critical hit damage)

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 8 (+4 Tower Shield)
+ 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 58


And if you want to make use of the Longsword... You might consider a build such as: Fighter 12/Frenzied Berserker 5/Champion of Corellon Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 3 (Because why not)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 17, DEX 18, CON 9, INT 14, WIS 8, CHA 8. First ability score increase goes into Dexterity and the rest into Strength, thus with +4 Strength item and +3 Dexterity item, you could easily reach 32 Strength 22 Dexterity for +11 and +6 ability score modifiers respectively.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Strength)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 6 (Improved Power Attack)
= 45

And the damage per hit:
1d8 (Longsword)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 16 (Strength modifier, when longsword is held two handed)
+ 20 (Enchanced Improved Power Attack)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 58.5~ Per Hit.

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 4 (Shield Wand)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 48

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:42 am
by mrm3ntalist
Rhifox wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:59 am Moved to Suggestions and Discussion.
No, move it back to where it was please. This was not emant to be a suggestions thread. They can make anew one if they want. The BG's version is perfectly balanced (sic) so make the PRC live sooner than later :D

Just GIB

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:04 am
by YYA
mrm3ntalist wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:35 am Did you read the BG's implementations before this wall of text?
Hidden: show
YYA wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:11 am I think this is on the wrong part of these forums... Or is this just a preview for the topic where you request for its addition? :lol:

And let us see... A ten level PRC that gets high BAB, in addition to high Fortitude and Will saves, d10 Hit Die, and the following class abilities:
- Lay on Hands,
- A total of 4 Fighter Bonus feats,
- A dexterity version of Swashbuckler's Insightful Strike for Longswords and Rapiers,
- +3 to the Maximum Dexterity Bonus offered by any medium or heavy armor, including armors made out of mithral. (You can use a tower shield)
- +2 AB and 2d6 for one round for 3 + 'charisma modifier' times per day.

And what the PRC requires: You must be a non-evil worshipper of Corellon Latherian, with 4 ranks in Diplomacy skill and 2 ranks in Knowledge (religion) skill, in addition to the following feats: Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mounted Combat True Believer, Martial Weapon Proficiency, Armor Proficiency (heavy), and Weapon Focus (longsword or rapier).

Alright, let us think this through:

Fighter 12/Anointed Knight 4/Champion of Corellen Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 4 (Because why not?)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 13, DEX 17, CON 9, INT 18, WIS 8, CHA 8. All ability score increases go into dexterity, so you could relatively easily reach something like 32 Dexterity (Modifier of +11) with a +3 Dexterity Item.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Dexterity)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 2 (Tower Shield)
- 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
= 43

And the damage per hit:
1d6 (Rapier)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 3 (Strength with that Belt of Growth)
+ 1d4 (Deadly Defense)
+ 11 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 32~ Per Hit. (Anointed Knight ability increases critical hit damage)

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 8 (+4 Tower Shield)
+ 6 (Improved Combat Expertise)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 58


And if you want to make use of the Longsword... You might consider a build such as: Fighter 12/Frenzied Berserker 5/Champion of Corellon Latherian 10/Shadowdancer 3 (Because why not)

Race Moon Elf, with starting ability scores of STR 17, DEX 18, CON 9, INT 14, WIS 8, CHA 8. First ability score increase goes into Dexterity and the rest into Strength, thus with +4 Strength item and +3 Dexterity item, you could easily reach 32 Strength 22 Dexterity for +11 and +6 ability score modifiers respectively.

So let us look at that AB:
29 (BAB)
+ 11 (Strength)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 4 (Epic Weapon Focus)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 1 (Epic Prowess)
- 6 (Improved Power Attack)
= 45

And the damage per hit:
1d8 (Longsword)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 16 (Strength modifier, when longsword is held two handed)
+ 20 (Enchanced Improved Power Attack)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Latharian's Elegant Strikje)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
= 58.5~ Per Hit.

And let us have a look at that AC:
10 (Base)
+ 8 (Mithral Full Plate)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier thank's to Corellen Latherian's class ability)
+ 4 (Armor Bracers)
+ 4 (Deflection Cloak)
+ 4 (Dodge Boots)
+ 4 (Natural Armor Amulet)
+ 4 (Shield Wand)
+ 3 (Tumble skill bonus)
+ 1 (Armor Skin)
= 48
Nope, care to link wherever the implementations are?

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:14 pm
by mrm3ntalist
On the character level up screen where you choose a class, you can find it there

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:17 pm
by YYA
Ah, I see it now.

Corellon's Wrath probably needs the same duration cap as Divine Champion's Divine Wrath. (Maximum of ten rounds.) Otherwise that ability will be very good with any old EDM build. And EDM builds were in part the reason why Divine Champion has that cap.

As for Superior Defense, I know it is probably just easier to give +3 Dodge Bonus in any armor... But Champions of Corellon Larenthian wear medium or heavy armor because they are the knights Corellon Larenthian, and not just some random forest hobos of Corellon Latrinian. ;) :lol:

And I am not sure if these guys should be Frenzied Berserkers either, because a Fighter 14/Frenzied Berserker 6/Champion of Corellon Larethian 10 could do this:

2d4 (Falchion)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment)
+ 16 (Strength modifier, with a Falchion)
+ 20 (Enchanced Improved Power Attack)
+ 6 (Dexterity Modifier, Champion of Corellon Larethian's Elegant Strike)
+ 6 (Epic Weapon Specialization)
+ 2 (Melee Weapon Mastery)
+ 11 (Northlander Hewing)
= 70~ Per Hit.

Who needs crits?

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:00 pm
by Theodore01
Does elegant strike multiply on a crit?

Could it be scripted, that the armor bonus works only in heavy armor, as the PRC is considered a knight?

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:03 pm
by Ewe
What does GIB mean? And what does the OP mean? It's just a series of emoticons. I know I'm not a zoomer, but this kind of communication is ridiculous!!

Re: GIB Champion of Corellon

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:12 pm
by yyj
Ewe wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:03 pm What does GIB mean?
It means Giant Inverted Boomerang.