Suggestion: Epic Gate and Dragon Knight w/ 10min cooldown

[Steve]

Hello,
For consideration: giving Epic Gate and Dragon Knight Epic Spells a 10 minute cooldown between uses, instead of a 1/per Rest usage, as is currently.

Or, another option of similar use would be just making 2/day casting.

Any takers?!?

[Deathgrowl]

No, please. No more MMOifying magic.

[Planehopper]

Would be nice, perhaps, to allow the feat to be taken additional times to allow more castings per day. With the cool down to prevent spamming it.

But I am not QC and haven't really considered any balance, just a thought.

[Steve]

No, please. No more MMOifying magic.

Explain? Is duration increases and or times per day not a D&D thing?

[EasternCheesE]

I don't have strong opinion about MMOfying content as i myself see how casters except for warlocks are not consistent with out encounter design.
Though, one thing to check is if thaumaturge extend summoning works with epic gate. If it does, 10 min cooldown will actually mean you have 24 HD summon for 8 minutes out of every 10 minutes and that will make a big change for conjurers. I'd just switch it to 1/20 minutes so it effectively is same as rest timer, but without the need to rest to get it restored.

That's my personal opinion though, as i understand it can affect DM events and general RP in dungeon running shifting it to less creative paths of overcoming challenge.

[Valefort]

I see no reason for that at all. Explain ?

[matelener]

I think the scaling should be turned off for epic summonings, including thaumaturge bonus. Similarly to how vamp feast DC doesn't get boosted by spell focus.

[Louvaine]

I'd like to limit the amount of time PC can reach into other planes of existance. Nothing against summoning things. Wizards are pretty outclassed in DPS anyway.

[Steve]

I see no reason for that at all. Explain ?

Essentially, both Epic Gate (4 minutes) and Dragon Knight (3 minutes) are one time per rest. What are they good for then? Either a single Boss fight, or a PvP fight.

If that’s the “Want” here, okay.

[EasternCheesE]

If you pick thaumaturge, you'll essentially double their duration so they will become 8 and 6 minutes respectively. 8,5 and 6,5 in fact, just tested it

It's even mentioned in Epic gate in-game description.

[YYA]

If that’s the “Want” here, okay.

Let us say that the change goes in, and someone has that Thaumaturge with both epic feats, he could then just go at the campfire and Summon a Balor, and then a Red Dragon, and then a Balor, and then a Red Dragon... Currently there is some downtime with these summons.

And what of all the other Epic Spells, should those too have the ten minute timers in addition to the extended number of uses some of them have? For example Epic Greater Ruin with its three uses, you burn those on a boss, teleport elsewhere, and burn all three refreshed uses on yet another boss.

[Steve]

If Thaumaturge doubles the duration, then I retract my request.

I’m totally okay with a Summoning Specialist getting the most out of these Epic Spells.

What it seems is, again, any generalist caster is much more “hard pressed” that specializing. I think this is unfortunately a result of content balancing FOR those specialists.

I guess it goes without saying that I personally am not found of specialization !! Lol.

[Blackman D]

well for the record... a caster's knowledge skill ranks is suppose to give them an epic spell slot for every 10 ranks in casting knowledge (arcana, nature, religion), so it would be plenty normal for all epic spells to be x3 per day if we are going by rules, just sayin

but of course that is 3 times total if you only have 1 spell

[Steve]

well for the record... a caster's knowledge skill ranks is suppose to give them an epic spell slot for every 10 ranks in casting knowledge (arcana, nature, religion), so it would be plenty normal for all epic spells to be x3 per day if we are going by rules, just sayin

but of course that is 3 times total if you only have 1 spell

That would be awesome if castings of Epic Spells was conditional on ranks of certain related Lore Skill.

[Xorena]

Why does every single suggestion increase power on this server?